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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Oct 2021 11:20 a.m. PST

You were asked – TMP link

Should General Milley Resign?

42% said "yes, he should resign"
38% said "no, he should not resign"

14Bore11 Oct 2021 11:39 a.m. PST

😁

skipper John11 Oct 2021 12:05 p.m. PST

He should be fired!

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2021 6:06 p.m. PST

He should stand a court martial, not resign.

Court martial can put him in jail, and take away his pension.
Where he can never play miniature wargaming again.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog

HMS Exeter12 Oct 2021 7:30 a.m. PST

From what I gather, he feared his boss was sufficiently unstable/mercurial/unhinged/unpredictable that he felt his conscience demanded he take steps to insure the well being of the nation by interceding in the chain of command.

Didn't Tom Cruise make a movie not long ago about an officer in a similar situation? There is no workable yard stick for measuring human conscience.

And Milley didn't try to kill anybody.

I think there is a defensible case that somebody should have gotten out a butterfly net after that Georgia phone call went public.

Just saying…

Legion 412 Oct 2021 8:21 a.m. PST

Yes, as HMS Exeter said … there is more to this than just all black & white …

We have a real "crisis" in our top level leadership … and it keeps getting worse …

Ponder Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2021 9:58 a.m. PST

This is not a miniatures gaming post.

Ponder on,


JAS

witteridderludo12 Oct 2021 10:00 a.m. PST

Why hasn't he been executed for treason yet?
I'm not American, but heck, if you need a volunteer for his firing squad…

Thresher0112 Oct 2021 2:09 p.m. PST

Yep, fired, with capital punishment definitely on the table to send a message to others NOT to work directly with our enemies, or to subvert the wishes of the CiC.

Perhaps that would keep people like the two now accused of waqnting to share nuke sub secrets with our enemies, from considering actions like that too. If it doesn't, at least it IS 100% effective at halting recidivism.

Legion 412 Oct 2021 4:42 p.m. PST

Many feel as I do … the CinC should be court martialed …

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2021 4:57 p.m. PST

Some of you bloodthirsty people need to look up the ACTUAL DEFINITION of "treason".
This isn't the time of Henry VIII when treason was pissing off the King.
And what Milley actually did was SOP for the job. Keeping open communication with his opposite factor.

Mad Max13 Oct 2021 4:27 a.m. PST

Court martial

Legion 413 Oct 2021 8:07 a.m. PST

And what Milley actually did was SOP for the job. Keeping open communication with his opposite factor.
Yes that is true … As I said, there is more to this than just is black & white.

jamemurp13 Oct 2021 9:54 a.m. PST

[q]Some of you bloodthirsty people need to look up the ACTUAL DEFINITION of "treason".
This isn't the time of Henry VIII when treason was pissing off the King.
And what Milley actually did was SOP for the job. Keeping open communication with his opposite factor.[/q]

It's only treason when the other team does something we don't like. When our guy feeds info to foreign leaders (or supports insurrection) it's perfectly fine and shouldn't even be investigated.

American politics is a cancer.

kcabai13 Oct 2021 11:16 a.m. PST

For those who have the need to actually look up treason:

link

The MCM states under Article 103b (Aiding the Enemy) any person may be subject to prosecution if they:

1. Aid, or attempt to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things;

or

2. Without proper authority, knowingly harbor or protect give intelligence to, or communicate or correspond with or hold any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly.

kcabai13 Oct 2021 11:33 a.m. PST

To all you barracks lawyer-wannabes. The President is a civilian, and even though he is CINC, he is not subject to UCMJ. (Court Martial)

jamemurp13 Oct 2021 12:28 p.m. PST

kcabai:

Civilians can be prosecuted for treason as well. See 18 U.S. Code Ch. 115. 18 U.S.C. 2383 deals specifically with inciting rebellion or insurrection, 2384 with Seditious conspiracy and 2385 Advocating overthrow of Government.

Legion 413 Oct 2021 4:32 p.m. PST

The President is a civilian, and even though he is CINC, he is not subject to UCMJ. (Court Martial)
Yes I think most know that. My post was hyperbole …

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