Editor in Chief Bill | 11 Oct 2021 11:20 a.m. PST |
You were asked – TMP link Should General Milley Resign?42% said "yes, he should resign" 38% said "no, he should not resign" |
14Bore | 11 Oct 2021 11:39 a.m. PST |
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skipper John | 11 Oct 2021 12:05 p.m. PST |
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Bunkermeister | 11 Oct 2021 6:06 p.m. PST |
He should stand a court martial, not resign. Court martial can put him in jail, and take away his pension. Where he can never play miniature wargaming again. Mike Bunkermeister Creek Bunker Talk blog |
HMS Exeter | 12 Oct 2021 7:30 a.m. PST |
From what I gather, he feared his boss was sufficiently unstable/mercurial/unhinged/unpredictable that he felt his conscience demanded he take steps to insure the well being of the nation by interceding in the chain of command. Didn't Tom Cruise make a movie not long ago about an officer in a similar situation? There is no workable yard stick for measuring human conscience. And Milley didn't try to kill anybody. I think there is a defensible case that somebody should have gotten out a butterfly net after that Georgia phone call went public. Just saying… |
Legion 4 | 12 Oct 2021 8:21 a.m. PST |
Yes, as HMS Exeter said … there is more to this than just all black & white … We have a real "crisis" in our top level leadership … and it keeps getting worse … |
Ponder | 12 Oct 2021 9:58 a.m. PST |
This is not a miniatures gaming post. Ponder on, JAS
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witteridderludo | 12 Oct 2021 10:00 a.m. PST |
Why hasn't he been executed for treason yet? I'm not American, but heck, if you need a volunteer for his firing squad… |
Thresher01 | 12 Oct 2021 2:09 p.m. PST |
Yep, fired, with capital punishment definitely on the table to send a message to others NOT to work directly with our enemies, or to subvert the wishes of the CiC. Perhaps that would keep people like the two now accused of waqnting to share nuke sub secrets with our enemies, from considering actions like that too. If it doesn't, at least it IS 100% effective at halting recidivism. |
Legion 4 | 12 Oct 2021 4:42 p.m. PST |
Many feel as I do … the CinC should be court martialed … |
John the OFM | 12 Oct 2021 4:57 p.m. PST |
Some of you bloodthirsty people need to look up the ACTUAL DEFINITION of "treason". This isn't the time of Henry VIII when treason was pissing off the King. And what Milley actually did was SOP for the job. Keeping open communication with his opposite factor. |
Mad Max | 13 Oct 2021 4:27 a.m. PST |
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Legion 4 | 13 Oct 2021 8:07 a.m. PST |
And what Milley actually did was SOP for the job. Keeping open communication with his opposite factor. Yes that is true … As I said, there is more to this than just is black & white. |
jamemurp | 13 Oct 2021 9:54 a.m. PST |
[q]Some of you bloodthirsty people need to look up the ACTUAL DEFINITION of "treason". This isn't the time of Henry VIII when treason was pissing off the King. And what Milley actually did was SOP for the job. Keeping open communication with his opposite factor.[/q] It's only treason when the other team does something we don't like. When our guy feeds info to foreign leaders (or supports insurrection) it's perfectly fine and shouldn't even be investigated. American politics is a cancer. |
kcabai | 13 Oct 2021 11:16 a.m. PST |
For those who have the need to actually look up treason: link The MCM states under Article 103b (Aiding the Enemy) any person may be subject to prosecution if they: 1. Aid, or attempt to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or 2. Without proper authority, knowingly harbor or protect give intelligence to, or communicate or correspond with or hold any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly. |
kcabai | 13 Oct 2021 11:33 a.m. PST |
To all you barracks lawyer-wannabes. The President is a civilian, and even though he is CINC, he is not subject to UCMJ. (Court Martial) |
jamemurp | 13 Oct 2021 12:28 p.m. PST |
kcabai: Civilians can be prosecuted for treason as well. See 18 U.S. Code Ch. 115. 18 U.S.C. §2383 deals specifically with inciting rebellion or insurrection, §2384 with Seditious conspiracy and §2385 Advocating overthrow of Government. |
Legion 4 | 13 Oct 2021 4:32 p.m. PST |
The President is a civilian, and even though he is CINC, he is not subject to UCMJ. (Court Martial) Yes I think most know that. My post was hyperbole … |