Chad47 | 06 Oct 2021 12:02 p.m. PST |
Does anyone know the colour of the above? |
14Bore | 06 Oct 2021 12:25 p.m. PST |
Dr Summerfield puts the Hanoverian up to 1803 in red, 1814-15 red with some medium to dark grey, iron fittings all black For my Hanoverian 1813-15 I opted for brick red |
deadhead | 06 Oct 2021 1:26 p.m. PST |
I can well imagine it depends on the date in question. Must say that, for that field south of Brussels, I thought they followed British practice, but I do accept that the Napoleonic Wars did precede 1815, as the odd skirmish anyway. |
Chad47 | 06 Oct 2021 2:07 p.m. PST |
Perhaps I should have been a little more precise. I am looking at the period 1793-95. |
14Bore | 06 Oct 2021 2:35 p.m. PST |
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Brechtel198 | 06 Oct 2021 4:19 p.m. PST |
And it is well to remember that there was no Hanover as an independent electorate between 1807 and 1813, parts of it becoming part of the new Kingdom of Westphalia. Prior to 1807 Hanover had been tossed between France and Prussia, and any idea of an independent electorate was virtually meaningless. |
Extrabio1947 | 06 Oct 2021 4:22 p.m. PST |
Yes, per Kronoskaf, Hanoverian artillery carriages in the SYW were red (see below) and apparently remained red until 1803, at least. "Hanoverian carriages, limbers, and ammunition wagon were all painted red and the metal fittings had a black furnish. We may assume the shade of red to be rather similar to that of the French guns. At that time, this colour was the most popular and most widely used to furnish wood." |
ColCampbell | 06 Oct 2021 6:49 p.m. PST |
I would think that the "red" would be a "red lead" paint color. Jim |
Brechtel198 | 07 Oct 2021 3:28 a.m. PST |
During the Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars French gun carriages and other artillery rolling stock were painted dark green. Red went out with Valliere fils. |
Chad47 | 07 Oct 2021 3:56 a.m. PST |
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Steamingdave2 | 07 Oct 2021 10:12 a.m. PST |
@Brechtel198. Dark green? I have always understood that French guns etc were a more "Olive Green", the pigment being made by mixing ochre and lamp black, so a slightly yellowy green. |
Brechtel198 | 07 Oct 2021 2:41 p.m. PST |
I believe that olive green is a dark green. Humbrol used to manufacture French Artillery Green if I recall correctly, and that was a dark green. Apparently, the US artillery used the same color during the War of 1812. |
Mserafin | 07 Oct 2021 2:48 p.m. PST |
I've seen US artillery from the Civil War that were green. Most of them, IIRC. |
Brechtel198 | 08 Oct 2021 3:48 p.m. PST |
The standard color for US gun carriages, limbers, caissons and ancillary artillery vehicles in the Civil War was olive drab/dark green. |
deadhead | 09 Oct 2021 1:54 a.m. PST |
Well, getting even further from the original topic, here is how Union guns were preserved at Gettysburg 11 years ago. Obviously reconstructions but I suspect much research went into them. French artillery of the Napoleonic Era. Someone once told me Vallejo Russian Uniform WWII 70.924 and I have used it ever since. For British I found this useful (and the book is invaluable); PDF link Red lead should look very good on artillery carriages. It has an orange "rust" look, curiously enough to protect against corrosion and rust!
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Brechtel198 | 09 Oct 2021 4:18 a.m. PST |
For the British field artillery, Franklin's book is an essential study. |
von Winterfeldt | 10 Oct 2021 2:07 a.m. PST |
Bernadotte's corps of 1805/06 employed a lot of Hannoverian guns. |