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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian02 Oct 2021 11:19 p.m. PST

Of the German WWII tank color schemes, 'panzer gray' is the easiest to paint.

What percentage of your painted WWII German vehicles are in panzer gray?

Martin Rapier03 Oct 2021 12:05 a.m. PST

Only the early war stuff, so around 40%

Oops, forgot about North Africa. 30%

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP03 Oct 2021 3:53 a.m. PST

About 40%, I really like the early, pre 1943 stuff!

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP03 Oct 2021 4:30 a.m. PST

Does Panzer Gray with brown disruptive cammo count? If so, about a a third.

JimDuncanUK03 Oct 2021 5:45 a.m. PST

Not many as my WW2 collection is mostly Normandy+.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP03 Oct 2021 6:12 a.m. PST

As above, my early war vehicle are pretty much all Panzer Grey – which makes up about 30% as the rest are Western Desert/mid-war

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Oct 2021 8:37 a.m. PST

All of them, but then I only do 1940.

pmwalt03 Oct 2021 9:03 a.m. PST

About 20-25%

HansPeterB03 Oct 2021 9:32 a.m. PST

About 50% in 28mm (I like early war skirmish) and maybe 20% in 15mm.

skippy000103 Oct 2021 1:09 p.m. PST

Isn't panzer gray just faded black? I read that german tanks were painted black first. Read that in the late sixties, though. Was that a 'Hussar' thing?

Striker03 Oct 2021 3:34 p.m. PST


Col Durnford Supporting Member of TMP03 Oct 2021 5:15 p.m. PST

About 30 to 40%.

Captain Pete03 Oct 2021 6:07 p.m. PST

For me, probably about 20% to 25%. When I started painting 6mm WWII miniatures over 30 years ago, I started with German vehicles in Panzer Gray.

Since then my painted Germans are have about 30% to 40% painted up for North Africa and the rest are done in the later Dunkelgelb with camo.

I plan on adding more Panzer Gray vehicles to my German forces when I start doing Barbarossa.

Martin Rapier03 Oct 2021 11:56 p.m. PST

"Isn't panzer gray just faded black?"

No, although it is quite a dark grey before the sun bleaches it. Designed to hide stationery vehicles in shadow (same as the Brits painting the top of their softskins black).

Ive also got some vehicles in panzer grey/red brown disruptive, which is quite a nice scheme.

David Manley04 Oct 2021 4:27 a.m. PST

Most of mine, but then again you'd hardly tell as my 15mm Germans are all "winterised" for the Russian Front. I've tried doing whitewash schemes over regular 1943/44 schemes and it just didn't look "right" to me so I just do everything in grey and then liberally apply the whitewash :)

witteridderludo04 Oct 2021 10:39 a.m. PST

percentage of painted vehcles… you guys actually paint?

Rich Bliss04 Oct 2021 2:10 p.m. PST


Yesthatphil04 Oct 2021 2:28 p.m. PST

Yeah … maybe as much as half (new accessions have been early to mid period so have probably upped the percentage from 40%)


machinehead Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2021 3:59 p.m. PST

Less than 5% I would guess.

Zephyr104 Oct 2021 8:58 p.m. PST

I didn't have Panzer Gray, but I did have Testors Gray… ;-)

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2021 4:22 a.m. PST

You know, percentage is a strange way of looking at this. It's not as though we're talking horse colors in a cavalry regiment. If we have early war German armies, we have tanks painted in panzer gray. Some might have brown disruptive pattern or a winter whitewash, but we have no feedback on whether that counts.

So I guess my answer is that I have three microscale German armies--an early war in panzer gray with grown disruptive paint, a DAK suitable for Gazala and a three-color late war pattern suitable for the summer of 1944. In 2mm, all the tanks are in Dunkelgelb and all the infantry in tropical olive. It's a compromise, and they all have to live with it.

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