| Tango01 | 27 Sep 2021 4:21 p.m. PST |
Lockheed Martin showcases the Multi-Mission Surface Combatant
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link Israel Shipyards displays Reshef class vessel
link Fincantieri showcases Bergamini-class FREMM frigate
link Elbit Systems showcases the Seagull USV
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| pmwalt | 27 Sep 2021 5:38 p.m. PST |
Thanks for sharing the pics |
| Zephyr1 | 27 Sep 2021 8:35 p.m. PST |
They just look so …underarmed. |
| arealdeadone | 27 Sep 2021 9:36 p.m. PST |
Zephyr, they are under armed. Except the FREMM, they are all glorified patrol ships designed for constabulary duties.
However nearly all modern ships pack less firepower than an equivalent older vessel.
Eg the 6,700 ton FREMM frigate pictured above (and the only real warship) packs fewer missiles than a 4,000 ton Oliver Hazard Perry. To make things even more stupid the new US Constellation class is based on FREMM and is even more undergunned! The daftest of all is the near 16,000 ton Zummwalt which has less firepower than a 9,500 ton Arleigh Burke (Flight II). Oh and the first ship pictured is a rebadged Freedom class LCS which is the worst of the two LCS. |
| Perun Gromovnik | 27 Sep 2021 11:26 p.m. PST |
I am not fully into it so could you please explain why is Freedom class worst of other two, thanks |
| arealdeadone | 28 Sep 2021 5:20 a.m. PST |
Freedom class has major propulsion issues the Independence class does not. link |
| Perun Gromovnik | 28 Sep 2021 5:47 a.m. PST |
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| Inch High Guy | 28 Sep 2021 11:19 a.m. PST |
The USN has forgotten how to design warships, the program is a disgrace. There are several designs in service with other navies which are much better armed on half the displacement and at a third of the cost. At this point the best thing you could do with the LCS program is cease production immediately, decommission the existing ships, and transfer the crews and budgets to support the rest of the fleet. |
| Tango01 | 28 Sep 2021 3:43 p.m. PST |
No mention my friend…. Armand |
| Tango01 | 28 Sep 2021 10:22 p.m. PST |
Italian Navy displays Carlo Bergamini-class frigate Luigi Rizzo link link
China's 33rd Type 054A frigate to be floated out soon
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First steel cut for Type 31 frigate HMS Venturer
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What Is The True Cost Of The Aircraft Carrier USS Ford
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Heedless Horseman  | 29 Sep 2021 12:09 a.m. PST |
I have little confidence… except in crews… but 'owt better than nowt'
This is 2021.. surely designers can provide multi-function,
climate capable warships? A boat is Hull and Propulsion… kit it out how you like. for the craft… but you NEED Hulls, not Design Concepts.
50s/60s warships WERE updated… why not now? I am NOT service, so they will know better, but 'Stealth' design might sound good… but you WILL get hit by 'something'… so construction/ survivabiility/ response capability, might be of more worth than concept |
| Tango01 | 01 Oct 2021 10:06 p.m. PST |
The Navy's Constellation-Class Frigate: Built To Sink Anything?
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| Tango01 | 02 Oct 2021 9:42 p.m. PST |
Littoral Combat Ship: A Light Amphibious Warship?
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 foxbat | 05 Oct 2021 3:01 a.m. PST |
The new French built FDI frigate link |
| Tango01 | 09 Oct 2021 8:53 p.m. PST |
Light Amphibious Warship: A Mistake For The U.S. Marine Corps And Navy?
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| Tango01 | 12 Oct 2021 9:45 p.m. PST |
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| arealdeadone | 12 Oct 2021 10:01 p.m. PST |
It would be insane to pour good money after bad into the LCS. |
| Tango01 | 13 Oct 2021 3:23 p.m. PST |
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| Tango01 | 14 Oct 2021 10:32 p.m. PST |
Two Ada-class corvettes for Ukrainian Navy will be jointly produced by Turkey and Ukraine
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| Tango01 | 18 Oct 2021 4:35 p.m. PST |
South Korea to develop batch IV of Ulsan-class multi-purpose guided missile frigate
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| Tango01 | 25 Oct 2021 9:54 p.m. PST |
Republic of Korea Navy Gwanggaeto the Great destroyer
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China New Haixun 09 10,000 tones patrol class vessel
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Ukrainian SRDSC showcases Kaira-150 multitask craft
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| Tango01 | 28 Oct 2021 9:01 p.m. PST |
China's New Aircraft Carrier Is Massive
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New pictures of Chinese-made Type 056 class corvette for Algeria
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| Tango01 | 02 Nov 2021 3:27 p.m. PST |
US Navy to equip Constellation-class frigates with 57mm Mk 110 guns
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| Tango01 | 18 Nov 2021 9:44 p.m. PST |
New pictures released of future Type 26 frigate HMS Glasgow
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South Korea launches new Daegu-class frigate Cheonan
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South Korea Navy publishes new video about CVX aircraft carrier
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| SBminisguy | 19 Nov 2021 11:18 a.m. PST |
…when your defense procurement system is focused on farming out jobs, contracts and political pay-offs rather than on national security… |
| Tango01 | 19 Nov 2021 3:01 p.m. PST |
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| Tango01 | 23 Nov 2021 10:23 p.m. PST |
Russian Kerch shipyard floats out Project 22800 corvette Askold
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| Tango01 | 29 Nov 2021 10:00 p.m. PST |
The Royal Navy's stealth sub can stay submerged for 25 years
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In this case … several crew members can die during that long period … how would they be replaced?
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| Murvihill | 01 Dec 2021 7:48 a.m. PST |
"In this case … several crew members can die during that long period … how would they be replaced?"
I imagine they have women onboard. |
| Tango01 | 01 Dec 2021 11:29 p.m. PST |
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| Tango01 | 15 Dec 2021 9:57 p.m. PST |
US Navy Successfully Test-Fires Laser Weapon In The Middle East
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| chironex | 16 Dec 2021 4:42 a.m. PST |
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