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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian24 Sep 2021 7:26 a.m. PST

It might come as a surprise (or not) to learn that a lot of Manhattan Island has been built on a giant trash heap. New York City has been upcycling its refuse and waste to build more New York City for more than a century…

Military: link

Extrabio1947 Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2021 4:44 p.m. PST

There is a National Geographic TV series called, "Drain the Oceans." Season 2, Episode 2 covers the find of this ship. I believe they also found artifacts associated with the 54th Regiment of Foot.

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2021 6:26 p.m. PST

San Francisco is built also on many ships deserted/
abandoned during the '49 gold rush. In part, this
sort of 'foundation' is what caused much of the damage
from the great earthquake.

CPBelt25 Sep 2021 7:29 p.m. PST

You mean the Great Fire, don't you?

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2021 7:50 p.m. PST

The Great Fire certainly caused much damage, as did
the demolition of buildings in an attempt to create
fire breaks, but the composition of the ground upon which
many structures were built in the port area was
also conducive to a lot of collapsed structures due
to the jelly-like consistency of the terrain.

42flanker30 Sep 2021 6:06 a.m. PST

@extrabio1947
The programme was 'Drain the Oceans,' Ep 2.2: 'Secrets of New York'
link

The pewter button was in fact to the 52nd Regiment.

Curiously, Dr Warren Reiss (Univ. Maine) the Marine Archaeologist, for some reason identifies the 52nd as a unit of "grenadiers, very aggressive, assault troops."

Perhaps he was confusing grenadiers with light infantry ('the other flank'?) given the role of the regiment's Light company in Maitland's notorious 2nd Light Infantry or perhaps even their subsequent 'Napoleonic' exploits in the Peninsula and at Waterloo.

However, the programme takes this ball and runs with it, suggesting that the sunken vessel had been a lighter ferrying prisoners to the hulks off Brooklyn, "crewed by British grenadiers"- "the most fiercesome troops in the British army."

Probably not the most likely role for British 'shock troops,' whatever the regiment, while the 52nd battalion coys spent little time at New York, being part of the garrison of Rhode Island from November 1776 till 1778 when the depleted regiment was drafted and raised anew in England.

A shame none of the team belonged to TMP. Somebody could have put them right. Smiley speccy face. }8^)

A remarkable archaeological discovery nonetheless, given its location.

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