79thPA  | 24 Sep 2021 6:11 a.m. PST |
I saw this yesterday: link I just found it interesting. |
Editor in Chief Bill  | 24 Sep 2021 6:21 a.m. PST |
And the genetics suggests they died off. Hmmm… |
Frederick  | 24 Sep 2021 6:59 a.m. PST |
"This would suggest that the initial colonists of the Americas were replaced when the ice corridor formed and another wave of colonists came in. We have no idea how that happened." I doubt it was pleasant – - - |
Wackmole9 | 24 Sep 2021 7:06 a.m. PST |
Ice Corridor is a myth. They move down the continental shelf of the west coast as it was dry land during the ice age. |
79thPA  | 24 Sep 2021 7:15 a.m. PST |
I think it is a combination of the two. A few years ago a new site was discovered on the west coast adding more support to the coastal migration theory. link |
rustymusket  | 24 Sep 2021 7:19 a.m. PST |
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Wackmole9 | 24 Sep 2021 7:55 a.m. PST |
SO you cross a land bridge from Asia and have two choice. One go into a valley with Ice walls on both sides with limited food or 2 go down the coast, where there is lot of food. |
skipper John | 24 Sep 2021 8:22 a.m. PST |
"Now, a team working in New Mexico has found scores of human footprints dated to between 23,000 and 21,000 years old." And here I thought Illegal immigration was a recent controversy! |
79thPA  | 24 Sep 2021 8:34 a.m. PST |
I think it is unwise to assume that there is a sole migration pattern. |
Silurian  | 24 Sep 2021 9:18 a.m. PST |
79thPA is correct. The ice sheets and glaciers ebbed and flowed during the course of the ice age. It wasn't all or nothing all of the time. This discovery is pretty exciting, and the story of different migrations of distinct peoples is fascinating. |
Andrew Walters | 24 Sep 2021 9:41 a.m. PST |
Really interesting. I hope they find more than footprints, anything to tie them in to the rest of history. |
John the OFM | 24 Sep 2021 10:37 a.m. PST |
Doubtless there will be some ethnic controversy over this. |
Perun Gromovnik | 24 Sep 2021 10:38 a.m. PST |
Some time ago I watched on ZDF that they found old pictures in caves somewhere in south america. On pictures were brown/yellow people's hunting black people's. Theory was that first colonist of south america was black people. Probably the truth is all of that but not at once, rather wave by wave |
Dn Jackson  | 25 Sep 2021 3:11 a.m. PST |
"And the genetics suggests they died off. Hmmm…" Of course they dies off. They'd be 23,000 years old by now. |
Dn Jackson  | 25 Sep 2021 3:15 a.m. PST |
"Ice Corridor is a myth." Hardly. Many crossed the grinding ice where many perished. Others were involved in the kin slaying where they stole the ships of the Teleri. Was Canada originally Utumno? |
Dn Jackson  | 25 Sep 2021 3:15 a.m. PST |
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machinehead | 25 Sep 2021 3:39 p.m. PST |
Dn Jackson, Beleriand sank into the sea. |
Zephyr1 | 25 Sep 2021 9:06 p.m. PST |
There is a lot of current thinking that they migrated by boat along the coasts. But most evidence of that lies under the ocean after the sea-level rise covered what were the coasts back then… |
Dn Jackson  | 25 Sep 2021 11:43 p.m. PST |
"Dn Jackson, Beleriand sank into the sea." I'm still suspicious of Canadians. |
Heedless Horseman  | 26 Sep 2021 10:31 p.m. PST |
All sorts of 'Theory' about human 'colonisation' of Americas… just 'take your pick'. NO ONE will know! And had a VERY LONG TIME to happen, so not 'events', but 'influences'. My own 'take' is that there 'may' have been very limited colonisation by boat from Africa, via Australasia, to S Americas, But much 'easier' gradual migration of 'Asiatics' from NW… whether ice, land or boat. So… who was first? Doesn't matter. As for 'contact'… nobody can know… but I think a mix of 'social interaction', 'possible' warfare… and disease. Just look at what DID happen… later. Human species dosen't change much! But Very Long Time for 'whatever' to work through. |