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79thPA Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2021 6:11 a.m. PST

I saw this yesterday:

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I just found it interesting.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian24 Sep 2021 6:21 a.m. PST

And the genetics suggests they died off. Hmmm…

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2021 6:59 a.m. PST

"This would suggest that the initial colonists of the Americas were replaced when the ice corridor formed and another wave of colonists came in. We have no idea how that happened."

I doubt it was pleasant – - -

Wackmole9 Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2021 7:06 a.m. PST

Ice Corridor is a myth. They move down the continental shelf of the west coast as it was dry land during the ice age.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2021 7:15 a.m. PST

I think it is a combination of the two. A few years ago a new site was discovered on the west coast adding more support to the coastal migration theory.

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rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2021 7:19 a.m. PST

History is a process.

Wackmole9 Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2021 7:55 a.m. PST

SO you cross a land bridge from Asia and have two choice. One go into a valley with Ice walls on both sides with limited food or 2 go down the coast, where there is lot of food.

skipper John24 Sep 2021 8:22 a.m. PST

"Now, a team working in New Mexico has found scores of human footprints dated to between 23,000 and 21,000 years old."

And here I thought Illegal immigration was a recent controversy!

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2021 8:34 a.m. PST

I think it is unwise to assume that there is a sole migration pattern.

Personal logo Silurian Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2021 9:18 a.m. PST

79thPA is correct. The ice sheets and glaciers ebbed and flowed during the course of the ice age. It wasn't all or nothing all of the time.
This discovery is pretty exciting, and the story of different migrations of distinct peoples is fascinating.

Personal logo Andrew Walters Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2021 9:41 a.m. PST

Really interesting. I hope they find more than footprints, anything to tie them in to the rest of history.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2021 10:37 a.m. PST

Doubtless there will be some ethnic controversy over this.

Perun Gromovnik24 Sep 2021 10:38 a.m. PST

Some time ago I watched on ZDF that they found old pictures in caves somewhere in south america. On pictures were brown/yellow people's hunting black people's. Theory was that first colonist of south america was black people. Probably the truth is all of that but not at once, rather wave by wave

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2021 3:11 a.m. PST

"And the genetics suggests they died off. Hmmm…"

Of course they dies off. They'd be 23,000 years old by now.

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2021 3:15 a.m. PST

"Ice Corridor is a myth."

Hardly. Many crossed the grinding ice where many perished. Others were involved in the kin slaying where they stole the ships of the Teleri.

Was Canada originally Utumno?

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2021 3:15 a.m. PST

Cool article.

machinehead Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2021 3:39 p.m. PST

Dn Jackson, Beleriand sank into the sea.

Zephyr125 Sep 2021 9:06 p.m. PST

There is a lot of current thinking that they migrated by boat along the coasts. But most evidence of that lies under the ocean after the sea-level rise covered what were the coasts back then…

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2021 11:43 p.m. PST

"Dn Jackson, Beleriand sank into the sea."

I'm still suspicious of Canadians.

Heedless Horseman26 Sep 2021 10:31 p.m. PST

All sorts of 'Theory' about human 'colonisation' of Americas… just 'take your pick'. NO ONE will know!
And had a VERY LONG TIME to happen, so not 'events', but 'influences'.

My own 'take' is that there 'may' have been very limited colonisation by boat from Africa, via Australasia, to S Americas, But much 'easier' gradual migration of 'Asiatics' from NW… whether ice, land or boat.
So… who was first? Doesn't matter.

As for 'contact'… nobody can know… but I think a mix of 'social interaction', 'possible' warfare… and disease. Just look at what DID happen… later.
Human species dosen't change much! But Very Long Time for 'whatever' to work through.

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