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Windward16 Sep 2021 8:12 a.m. PST

Again look at my scenario on the attack of the 1st SS on the 35th Division. I have a pretty good OB on the 35th and the engaged regiments. But during the battle the 4th CCA supported and helped stop the advance.

The only unit I can find named is the 51st Armored Infantry (they chopped the snot out of a VG Regiment trying to cross open ground) But tanks supported also. But I have no idea of the make up the CCA was at this time Dec 30-31.


robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP16 Sep 2021 1:59 p.m. PST

Should be 8th Tank Battalion, but that's process of elimination: I can account for the other two. Recon would be a troop--probably "A"--of the 25th Cav, and you'd expect a company of the 24th Armored Engineers. One of the Armored Field Artillery battalions would have been in support, but it might take me a bit to figure out which one. Note that somewhere prior to that the understrength 1/318 Infantry had been attached, but off hand it looks as though they were back with the 80th ID by the 30th. This is coming from Hugh Coles' Ardennes volume of the official history.

Murvihill16 Sep 2021 2:01 p.m. PST

Nafziger has the order of battle for the Bulge, found it in the index but got 404'd when I clicked the link.
944ULAA US Army, Battle of the Bulge, 17 December 1944 to 5 January 1945

Starfury Rider17 Sep 2021 12:45 a.m. PST

The After Action Report for the 51st Armd Inf Bn, covering Jul44 to May45, is available via the CARL Digital Library. I had a quick look through but there's no mention of the 30th and 31st Dec 1944 that I could see. Looks like they were paired with 35th Tk Bn during Dec44. There is a composition of CCA on page 73 of the PDF, dated 21 Dec44, which is somewhat ahead of your dates.



williamb22 Sep 2021 3:52 p.m. PST

Test of Battle Games has a scenario book "Crisis in the Ardennes" with an order of battle for the 30th of December. the scenario is #10 "Closing the Corridor". In addition to two battalions from the US 134th infantry with C company 654th TD Battalion (M10, M20, and M8)and one battalion from the 137th infantry, CCA of the 4th armored division has task force Alanis with Headquarters, A, and B companies of the 51st Armored Infantry, B company of 35th Tank Battalion, and A company 704th TD Battalion (M18s with M20s and M8s) and Task Force Oden with HQ A, C, and D companies 35th Tank Battalion, C company 51st Armored Infantry, parts of B troop 25th Cavalry, parts of B company 24th Armored Engineer Battalion,and part of A company 704th TD Battalion (M18). 64th Armored Field Artillery Battalion (M7) and 274th Armored Field Artillery Battalion (M7) provided fire support along with 161st Field Artillery Battalion (attached to 134th infantry (105mm), a battalion of towed 155s from III corps, D company Chemical Mortar Battalion (4.2" mortars), and another 105 battery from 216th Field Artillery Battalion. US air support for the scenario is P47s

The scenario also has a detailed OOB for the Germans.

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