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ciaphas13 Sep 2021 10:58 a.m. PST

Hi,
whilst digging in the loft space these were rediscovered, do I need the GW Warmaster rulebook or the Ancient book or just this book as it stnds alone?
I am not at home to check.

cheers
jon

Wargamer Blue13 Sep 2021 11:19 a.m. PST

Still need the Ancient version for the core rules. Medieval brought in improved rules and a couple of changes.

What a great find.

Griefbringer13 Sep 2021 11:19 a.m. PST

If I am not mistaken, it is not a stand-alone ruleset but a supplement to the Warmaster Ancients rules.

gbowen13 Sep 2021 11:21 a.m. PST

You need Warmaster ancients rules. You could get by with the Warmaster Revolutions PDF

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2021 2:30 p.m. PST

Dangnabbit. "No, no! You should sell ‘em to me!"

Seriously, great find!

What's lacking from the original Warmaster rules are the errata (there are a lot) and specific rules for pikes and skirmishers, as well as the non-fantastic army lists. Warmaster Ancients also places a little more restriction on combats rolling across the field (though personally, I think that's a lot of fun and not all that unrealistic— Prince Edward at Lewes being an example).

I think Warmaster Ancients is a better summary of the core rules, though the best (with pretty much all the necessary corrections) is the Battle of Five Armies rulebook, which I believe was the last version published by GW/Specialist Games. It lacks rules for sieges, pike blocks and war bands, but on the core, it's solid and the easiest to understand.

Wargamer Blue13 Sep 2021 2:37 p.m. PST

Be amazing if someone turned the fan Warmaster Revolutions into an ancients version.

McWong7313 Sep 2021 4:28 p.m. PST

You'll be able to play with WM Revolutions, which is WMA ported to WMFB. You just won't use the fantasy chrome is all.

CPBelt13 Sep 2021 7:20 p.m. PST

Awesome find!

Medieval is like hens teeth. Tracking down a good copy on ebay took me forever. I so prefer the WMA series to Hail Ceaser (or Black Powder).

Wargamer Blue14 Sep 2021 2:07 a.m. PST

Me too CP. far superior command and control system.

Dukewilliam14 Sep 2021 8:28 a.m. PST

Wow, I have them all; I had no idea they were rare.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2021 11:57 a.m. PST

The rarest is possibly Warmaster Medieval Armies. I have WM, WMA, WMAA, and Bo5A, but I've never been able to find WMMA… though admittedly, it's been years since I've even looked. Not that big of a priority for me now, and it's not that hard to extrapolate medieval style units from the mix in WM and WMA/WMAA. Let's face it, army lists are a matter of interpretation anyway.

Wargamer Blue14 Sep 2021 1:23 p.m. PST

Someone's trying to sell Medieval on eBay for $AU400. Good luck to them.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2021 8:12 a.m. PST

Just did a quick search, and one US copy is going for $125. USD huh?

Wouldn't pay that either.

Some of these eBay game sellers (and game collectors) are nuts. I also did a search for the old spy roleplaying games, Top Secret:SI and James Bond 007. Some are not completely outside the bounds of reason— in the $70 USD-80 range, though I personally wouldn't pay that for either— but others are upwards of $300. USD Absurd.

I wonder if these inflated prices are real, or if there's some sort of scam in place that somehow makes charging such prices profitable even without sales. Or it could just be that PT Barnum is right…

Mike148517 Sep 2021 6:04 a.m. PST

I have a copy of Warmaster Ancients and Warmaster Medievals, both unused and in immaculate condition, if there's any interest. UK only.

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