ciaphas | 13 Sep 2021 10:58 a.m. PST |
Hi, whilst digging in the loft space these were rediscovered, do I need the GW Warmaster rulebook or the Ancient book or just this book as it stnds alone? I am not at home to check. cheers jon |
Wargamer Blue | 13 Sep 2021 11:19 a.m. PST |
Still need the Ancient version for the core rules. Medieval brought in improved rules and a couple of changes. What a great find. |
Griefbringer | 13 Sep 2021 11:19 a.m. PST |
If I am not mistaken, it is not a stand-alone ruleset but a supplement to the Warmaster Ancients rules. |
gbowen | 13 Sep 2021 11:21 a.m. PST |
You need Warmaster ancients rules. You could get by with the Warmaster Revolutions PDF |
Parzival | 13 Sep 2021 2:30 p.m. PST |
Dangnabbit. "No, no! You should sell ‘em to me!" Seriously, great find! What's lacking from the original Warmaster rules are the errata (there are a lot) and specific rules for pikes and skirmishers, as well as the non-fantastic army lists. Warmaster Ancients also places a little more restriction on combats rolling across the field (though personally, I think that's a lot of fun and not all that unrealistic— Prince Edward at Lewes being an example). I think Warmaster Ancients is a better summary of the core rules, though the best (with pretty much all the necessary corrections) is the Battle of Five Armies rulebook, which I believe was the last version published by GW/Specialist Games. It lacks rules for sieges, pike blocks and war bands, but on the core, it's solid and the easiest to understand. |
Wargamer Blue | 13 Sep 2021 2:37 p.m. PST |
Be amazing if someone turned the fan Warmaster Revolutions into an ancients version. |
McWong73 | 13 Sep 2021 4:28 p.m. PST |
You'll be able to play with WM Revolutions, which is WMA ported to WMFB. You just won't use the fantasy chrome is all. |
CPBelt | 13 Sep 2021 7:20 p.m. PST |
Awesome find! Medieval is like hens teeth. Tracking down a good copy on ebay took me forever. I so prefer the WMA series to Hail Ceaser (or Black Powder). |
Wargamer Blue | 14 Sep 2021 2:07 a.m. PST |
Me too CP. far superior command and control system. |
Dukewilliam | 14 Sep 2021 8:28 a.m. PST |
Wow, I have them all; I had no idea they were rare. |
Parzival | 14 Sep 2021 11:57 a.m. PST |
The rarest is possibly Warmaster Medieval Armies. I have WM, WMA, WMAA, and Bo5A, but I've never been able to find WMMA… though admittedly, it's been years since I've even looked. Not that big of a priority for me now, and it's not that hard to extrapolate medieval style units from the mix in WM and WMA/WMAA. Let's face it, army lists are a matter of interpretation anyway. |
Wargamer Blue | 14 Sep 2021 1:23 p.m. PST |
Someone's trying to sell Medieval on eBay for $AU400. Good luck to them. |
Parzival | 15 Sep 2021 8:12 a.m. PST |
Just did a quick search, and one US copy is going for $125. USD Wouldn't pay that either. Some of these eBay game sellers (and game collectors) are nuts. I also did a search for the old spy roleplaying games, Top Secret:SI and James Bond 007. Some are not completely outside the bounds of reason— in the $70 USD-80 range, though I personally wouldn't pay that for either— but others are upwards of $300. USD Absurd. I wonder if these inflated prices are real, or if there's some sort of scam in place that somehow makes charging such prices profitable even without sales. Or it could just be that PT Barnum is right… |
Mike1485 | 17 Sep 2021 6:04 a.m. PST |
I have a copy of Warmaster Ancients and Warmaster Medievals, both unused and in immaculate condition, if there's any interest. UK only. |