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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Sep 2021 9:59 p.m. PST

On a scale of 0 (low) to 10 (high), what is your level of interest in seasteading, the effort to "establish permanent settlements on structures located in areas of sea outside the jurisdiction of any country"?

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 Sep 2021 10:00 p.m. PST

0

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Sep 2021 10:07 p.m. PST

We could be the forefathers of Miniature Wargandia on some barge somewhere. grin

The proponents of seasteading feel that current governments are limited by their historical roots, and that seasteading would allow a fresh start with government by 21st Century concepts.

rmaker11 Sep 2021 10:17 p.m. PST

0

Personal logo David Manley Supporting Member of TMP11 Sep 2021 10:42 p.m. PST

9

Personal logo The Nigerian Lead Minister Supporting Member of TMP11 Sep 2021 10:49 p.m. PST

8

Thresher0112 Sep 2021 3:02 a.m. PST

7

Cerdic12 Sep 2021 3:02 a.m. PST

What, like this place…?

link

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Sep 2021 5:00 a.m. PST

10 – For miniatures gaming including them. Also, the other vairous tiny location sovereignty modalities.

0 – Standing one up or participating in one. This ends up being too small to be self-sufficient. So unless you are independently wealthy enough to get everything you need for survival on the black market, you must get it from other countries. To get supplies from other countries, you must play by their rules. You're not as free as you think you are.

OSCS7412 Sep 2021 5:41 a.m. PST

0

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2021 6:55 a.m. PST

0 for the reasons expressed by etotheipi…

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2021 7:31 a.m. PST

0

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2021 7:32 a.m. PST

10– for certain other people and political types. Y'all can go for it, and get out of our hair.

0- for myself personally. Although with the way things are going… okay, maybe 0.001

?— for gaming. Really depends on what scenario, genre and setting. Come to think of it, it's basically a Bond plot, in which case it might be a 10.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2021 8:02 a.m. PST

0

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2021 8:09 a.m. PST

Water World returns. As a vehicle for gaming, sure. Real life? Not so much. So, maybe a 5 and a 0, respectively.

Stryderg12 Sep 2021 11:36 a.m. PST

I think connected barges would work better than the Sealandia solution: link. It could be much larger and potentially mobile to avoid major storms. My hope would be that it would be governed by pithy slogans like:
"Bust a deal, face the wheel!"
"Tan someone's hide, over the side!"

Fun to think about, but not very practical.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2021 3:43 p.m. PST

I'm sorry. I must be missing the miniatures aspect. Did I accidentally click on RealClearPolitics instead?

Stryderg12 Sep 2021 6:48 p.m. PST

The upside:
With your own seastead, you can have minis with as much lead in them as you want! Since you can set up the copyright rules and are in charge of enforcement, you can pirate as many minis as you want!

The downside:
If you collect too much stuff, your seastead sinks.
Fed Ex doesn't deliver to mobile seasteads, so good luck getting those minis to pirate.
You'l be playing solo or not at all.
You might not be able to get a decent internet connection out there, so TMP is off the table.
Speaking of "off the table", waves.

Personal logo Narratio Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2021 7:22 p.m. PST

0

Personal logo x42brown Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2021 8:22 a.m. PST

Home sweet Home

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I think not. 0

x42

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2021 9:02 a.m. PST

I dunno— looks like an awesome Putt-Putt course… laugh

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2021 9:05 a.m. PST

I'm sorry. I must be missing the miniatures aspect. Did I accidentally click on RealClearPolitics instead?

Think Bond scenario— Dr. No, Thunderball, The Spy Who Loved Me, etc., etc.. There's potential there.

Gwydion14 Sep 2021 5:59 a.m. PST

Depending what you are doing I'd watch out for things like Universal Jurisdiction, and the MARPOL convention and similar rules adopted by the IMO and enforceable by port states you may need to access.

Personally I'd have sunk pirate radio ships in the 60s and hanged the DJs in irons from yardarms in Chatham Dock.

deephorse15 Sep 2021 1:59 a.m. PST

"establish permanent settlements on structures located in areas of sea outside the jurisdiction of any country"?

I didn't think that there were any such locations left. Hasn't China claimed jurisdiction over every square mile of ocean on the planet?

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2021 8:18 p.m. PST

I'm with Etotheipi

chironex16 Sep 2021 5:49 a.m. PST
Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Sep 2021 12:33 p.m. PST

I didn't think that there were any such locations left. Hasn't China claimed jurisdiction over every square mile of ocean on the planet?

Not yet … but they're working on it.

The "International Community" did work with the UK to turn over to them a barren rock that was originally settled by the British.

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP16 Sep 2021 10:10 p.m. PST

0

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