Editor in Chief Bill | 11 Sep 2021 9:59 p.m. PST |
On a scale of 0 (low) to 10 (high), what is your level of interest in seasteading, the effort to "establish permanent settlements on structures located in areas of sea outside the jurisdiction of any country"? |
John the OFM | 11 Sep 2021 10:00 p.m. PST |
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Editor in Chief Bill | 11 Sep 2021 10:07 p.m. PST |
We could be the forefathers of Miniature Wargandia on some barge somewhere. The proponents of seasteading feel that current governments are limited by their historical roots, and that seasteading would allow a fresh start with government by 21st Century concepts. |
rmaker | 11 Sep 2021 10:17 p.m. PST |
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David Manley | 11 Sep 2021 10:42 p.m. PST |
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The Nigerian Lead Minister | 11 Sep 2021 10:49 p.m. PST |
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Thresher01 | 12 Sep 2021 3:02 a.m. PST |
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Cerdic | 12 Sep 2021 3:02 a.m. PST |
What, like this place…? link |
etotheipi | 12 Sep 2021 5:00 a.m. PST |
10 – For miniatures gaming including them. Also, the other vairous tiny location sovereignty modalities. 0 – Standing one up or participating in one. This ends up being too small to be self-sufficient. So unless you are independently wealthy enough to get everything you need for survival on the black market, you must get it from other countries. To get supplies from other countries, you must play by their rules. You're not as free as you think you are. |
OSCS74 | 12 Sep 2021 5:41 a.m. PST |
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Ed Mohrmann | 12 Sep 2021 6:55 a.m. PST |
0 for the reasons expressed by etotheipi… |
rustymusket | 12 Sep 2021 7:31 a.m. PST |
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Parzival | 12 Sep 2021 7:32 a.m. PST |
10– for certain other people and political types. Y'all can go for it, and get out of our hair. 0- for myself personally. Although with the way things are going… okay, maybe 0.001 ?— for gaming. Really depends on what scenario, genre and setting. Come to think of it, it's basically a Bond plot, in which case it might be a 10. |
Joes Shop | 12 Sep 2021 8:02 a.m. PST |
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79thPA | 12 Sep 2021 8:09 a.m. PST |
Water World returns. As a vehicle for gaming, sure. Real life? Not so much. So, maybe a 5 and a 0, respectively. |
Stryderg | 12 Sep 2021 11:36 a.m. PST |
I think connected barges would work better than the Sealandia solution: link. It could be much larger and potentially mobile to avoid major storms. My hope would be that it would be governed by pithy slogans like: "Bust a deal, face the wheel!" "Tan someone's hide, over the side!" Fun to think about, but not very practical. |
robert piepenbrink | 12 Sep 2021 3:43 p.m. PST |
I'm sorry. I must be missing the miniatures aspect. Did I accidentally click on RealClearPolitics instead? |
Stryderg | 12 Sep 2021 6:48 p.m. PST |
The upside: With your own seastead, you can have minis with as much lead in them as you want! Since you can set up the copyright rules and are in charge of enforcement, you can pirate as many minis as you want! The downside: If you collect too much stuff, your seastead sinks. Fed Ex doesn't deliver to mobile seasteads, so good luck getting those minis to pirate. You'l be playing solo or not at all. You might not be able to get a decent internet connection out there, so TMP is off the table. Speaking of "off the table", waves. |
Narratio | 12 Sep 2021 7:22 p.m. PST |
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x42brown | 13 Sep 2021 8:22 a.m. PST |
Home sweet Home
I think not. 0 x42 |
Parzival | 13 Sep 2021 9:02 a.m. PST |
I dunno— looks like an awesome Putt-Putt course… |
Parzival | 13 Sep 2021 9:05 a.m. PST |
I'm sorry. I must be missing the miniatures aspect. Did I accidentally click on RealClearPolitics instead? Think Bond scenario— Dr. No, Thunderball, The Spy Who Loved Me, etc., etc.. There's potential there. |
Gwydion | 14 Sep 2021 5:59 a.m. PST |
Depending what you are doing I'd watch out for things like Universal Jurisdiction, and the MARPOL convention and similar rules adopted by the IMO and enforceable by port states you may need to access. Personally I'd have sunk pirate radio ships in the 60s and hanged the DJs in irons from yardarms in Chatham Dock. |
deephorse | 15 Sep 2021 1:59 a.m. PST |
"establish permanent settlements on structures located in areas of sea outside the jurisdiction of any country"? I didn't think that there were any such locations left. Hasn't China claimed jurisdiction over every square mile of ocean on the planet? |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 15 Sep 2021 8:18 p.m. PST |
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chironex | 16 Sep 2021 5:49 a.m. PST |
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etotheipi | 16 Sep 2021 12:33 p.m. PST |
I didn't think that there were any such locations left. Hasn't China claimed jurisdiction over every square mile of ocean on the planet? Not yet … but they're working on it. The "International Community" did work with the UK to turn over to them a barren rock that was originally settled by the British. |
Old Contemptible | 16 Sep 2021 10:10 p.m. PST |
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