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Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP09 Sep 2021 2:40 p.m. PST

The release of the new Perry Miniatures has me contemplating doing FPW in 28mm for the first time.

I'd always considered 10 or 15mm before that due to the longer rifle and Arty ranges.

Excluding skirmish rules, what set are people considering using along with the new Perry Miniatures?


Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP09 Sep 2021 6:51 p.m. PST

For our group, the "gold standard" is Larry Brom's "Chassepot and Needlegun." In it the basic maneuver units are infantry battalions, cavalry regiments, and artillery batteries. It can be played using any size figures since the rules include scaled rulers. The rules are available from Larry's daughters at but unfortunately they are not able to print or ship rules right now as they live in New Orleans. Lori said they would let TMP know when they are back in business.

Infantry battalions are of 6 stands, with 4 figures each for Germans (24) and 3 figures each for French (18).

Cavalry regiments are of 4 or 8 stands, depending on how flexible you want your formation. All regiments are 16 figures.

Artillery batteries are 3 stands with 1 gun (or Mitrailleuse) and 2 gunners per stand.

Command levels run from infantry regiment through brigade and division to corps using 1, 2, 3, or 4 figures per command base.

Movement is controlled by cards representing infantry and cavalry brigades and artillery batteries and the distance is based on rolling dice. Weapons fire is by standing artillery, then standing infantry, then moving artillery, then moving infantry. Melee can either pit a stand versus a stand with high die winning or multiple dice again with the high score winning. Morale is unknown within each troop type until you have to check morale the first time, then you potentially have a range of poor, average, better, and elite.

Just to whet your "appetite," you can see pictures of some of or battles and portions of my blog on the FPW at the following links:





Perris070709 Sep 2021 6:55 p.m. PST

I plan to use Age of Valor which is an expansion of Age of Eagles II, or Fire and Furia Francese.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP09 Sep 2021 8:43 p.m. PST

Thanks for the info Jim. That looked like quite a game!

parrskool09 Sep 2021 11:03 p.m. PST

Neil Thomas " 19th Century Wargames Rules" covers it and related wars.

Martin Rapier09 Sep 2021 11:43 p.m. PST

Any element based rules are going to fairly figure scale agnostic. Neil Thomas or the Portable Wargame work fine (a couple of my pals play the latter with 54mm figs!).

nickinsomerset10 Sep 2021 4:19 a.m. PST

They died for Glory or Black Powder with various house rules available on t'internet.


It does help having a 20 x 8 table in 28mm though,

Tally Ho!

Bismarck10 Sep 2021 8:59 a.m. PST

Got to second Jim on this one. Chassepot & Needlegun are
great FPW rules. Best out there in my opinion. Enjoyed
many a game with the late Larry Brom. He normally used a 6x12 table. Rules also work
well in 15mm.

nickinsomerset10 Sep 2021 9:26 a.m. PST

My copy is in the shed and it is raining! Would my chaps, based for They Died for Glory work for Chassepot and Needlegun?

Tally Ho!

Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP10 Sep 2021 12:08 p.m. PST

nickinsomerset, I checked my copy of TDFG. French Line Infantry are four 4-man stands, Chasseurs are eight 3-man stands, German Guard or Line are four 5-man stands Jagers are four 5-man stands, so it sounds like you would have to add more stands to your battalions. On the other hand, it sounds like they would be fine for Black Powder, as is.

nickinsomerset10 Sep 2021 1:02 p.m. PST

NickfromStern! Cheers, they work for Black Powder I have played a few larger games using a few house rules.

I may give them a go with C&N and see how my basing copes the the mechanisms,

Tally Ho!

Decebalus11 Sep 2021 9:58 a.m. PST

1871. Grand Tactical with 150% works fine. And i think, having only 3-4 Divisions is absolutely okay. We use 6cm wide and 5cm deep bases for infantry.

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