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hollyhocks08 Sep 2021 1:29 p.m. PST

Just picked up the 'Back of beyond' army lists book for 'Contemtible little Armies', after being inspired by the Copplestone Castings excellent miniature range.

The 'Chinese Warlord' army gives the option for up to 1 unit of "Tungan Cavalry", which it describes as "Chinese Muslims".

Would Mongol Cavalry miniatures, such as those from the Copplestone range, do to represent these on the tabletop, or were they significantly different – and, if so, what is available to represent them in 28mm scale?

Thanks in advance for your help or suggestions

Rdfraf Supporting Member of TMP09 Sep 2021 6:30 p.m. PST

Interesting! I don't have the rules but it may refer to the KMT 36th Division which was known as the Tungan 36th Division. It was originally a cavalry with mostly Muslim troops.

They would probably be uniformed similar to regular KMT cavalry troops but in green., carrying rifles instead of carbines and Dao swords instead of sabers.

Mark Plant10 Sep 2021 12:35 a.m. PST

It seemed familiar, but it took a while. I think that it refers to the people generally known as Dungans.

Like most Chinese Muslims, they are a Turkic people, not a Mongol one.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP11 Sep 2021 10:57 a.m. PST

Turgan Rebellion for background

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Die Engelsman18 Oct 2022 3:36 a.m. PST

A google image search for 36th Tungan Division brings up a few black and white photos. One shows guys in what appears to be a light khaki yellow version of the standard Chinese uniform and big black furry hats of the Cossack style. Another shows what looks like more traditional Chinese Muslim clothing including a turban but in a medium tone (either grey, blue-grey or green)

QUATERMASS20 Oct 2022 9:09 a.m. PST

Just read this
"Cavalry regiments were divided into 2,000 men each, by horse color, black, brown, or white. Infantry then followed cavalry."

Don't know if that's helpful
But if like me you didn't know that it's an important detail

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