"What do the Kurds think?" Topic
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Escapee  | 27 Aug 2021 2:22 p.m. PST |
With all the posting about this disaster, I am thinking back just a bit… Did we not go through a similar situation with an abrupt withdrawal in Syria, abandoning our Kurdish allies, people killed and displaced, Isis blowing up stuff, and bad guy prisoners released? Maybe not the same scale but similar results in some ways? Similar decision process to get out? Like the "peace agreement" with the Taliban, how is it that we keep forgetting about these lessons and keep shooting ourselves in the foot? |
| Escapee | 27 Aug 2021 2:32 p.m. PST |
And I have no trouble being corrected if this is off base. I just seem to remember hearing some of the same stuff. |
| USAFpilot | 27 Aug 2021 2:42 p.m. PST |
The only reason we entered Syria was to destroy ISIS. Syria was never ours. The previous guy inherited a crisis of ISIS in Syria and Iraq which had grown out of control. ISIS formed in the first place to fill the power vacuum we created when we abruptly left Iraq. The previous guy unleashed our military and they took care of business and destroyed the ISIS caliphate in short order. (ISIS as a renegade country no longer exists. There was no point in staying in Syria in a forever war against an ideology.). As for the Kurds, we have been betraying them as far back as 1972. link |
| SBminisguy | 27 Aug 2021 2:58 p.m. PST |
Did we not go through a similar situation with an abrupt withdrawal in Syria, abandoning our Kurdish allies, people killed and displaced, Isis blowing up stuff, and bad guy prisoners released? No, pretty different. There is no the Kurds or just "Kurdish Allies." The Kurdish peoples are not a monolithic entity, they are scattered across northern Iran, Iraq, and Syria, and southern Turkey in a dozen or more factions. There's the PKK, KCK, KPC, PYD (a PKK offshoot in Syria), Tev-Dem, YPG, YPJ, KNC, DBK, KRG, Peshmerga, KDP, and the PUK. Given the shifting alphabet soup of factions, forgive me if I err -- but I believe the primary faction of Kurds that the US worked with in the Gulf War is the KDP, and we worked with them in the fight against Al Qaeda. They are located hundreds and hundreds of miles away from the area in Syria we're talking about – they are in northern Iraq and still have good ties with the US. The Kurds the US "abandoned" in Syria are one of several Syrian Kurdish groups, and this one -- the PYD is an offshoot of the PKK (militant Communist Kurdistan Worker's Party – which is an internationally recognized terrorist group). So why were we supporting them in the first place? In any event, within 24 hours of the US "abandoning" them, this group announced an alliance with -- the Assad Regime. |
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