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ekessler50726 Aug 2021 3:39 p.m. PST

Most of my experience with AWI is at skirmish level or slightly above with Brother Against Brother and Light Bobs.

Interested in regiment/battalion level rules where a QRS will be the front/back of a sheet of paper. I have played Volley and Bayonet a couple of times at cons.

What say ye?

Personal logo doc mcb Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2021 4:20 p.m. PST

We are using Regimental Fireand Fury variant.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Aug 2021 4:24 p.m. PST

Loads of choices, it depends what you like. Most of these rule sets fit your bill:

British Grenadier
Black Powder
Historical Battlelines
Rank & File

khanscom26 Aug 2021 4:35 p.m. PST

Old school rules: "Field Regulations". Probably wouldn't even need a QRS.

Blasted Brains26 Aug 2021 5:22 p.m. PST

+ 5 Rank and File – easy system, highly flexible
Guns of Liberty by Eric Burgess – gives a good feel

I will be using Rank and File.

Lascaris26 Aug 2021 5:24 p.m. PST

I like Carnage and Glory. All on the computer so no QRS necessary. Plays quicker than you'd think.

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2021 5:31 p.m. PST

We use a free set of rules called "Sons of Liberty". We have modified it a little over the years. They are an easy and fun set of rules. Not complicated and yet gives you a feel for the period.

PDF link

historygamer26 Aug 2021 5:49 p.m. PST

British Grenadier


Really nice feel for the period, and adjustable figure ratios for bigger or smaller battles.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2021 6:00 p.m. PST

Settle for what works for you. I'm tired of chasing the"perfect" set of AWI rules.
"The perfect is the enemy of the possible."
-Genghis Khan

We use Age of Reason, because we are used to it and like it.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2021 6:02 p.m. PST

BTW, British Grenadier has a fantastic set of scenario books, suitable for whatever set of rules you settle for.

Takeda1x26 Aug 2021 6:05 p.m. PST

I was looking for some rules for the AWI just a few days ago myself and came across "Liberty or death!" on jayswargamingmadness blog. They are a free download and they look like they cover all the bases and have some interesting mechanics. I just need to get a bunch more stuff painted and based before I can give them a good run on the table. Either way, you got nothing to lose on a free download and the blog itself is top notch.

Good luck!

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2021 6:26 p.m. PST

Fire and Fury Variant

Also waiting to see the next revision of Guns and Liberty – have heard some good things about it

+1 to British Grenadier scenario books

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2021 6:55 p.m. PST

"Disperse! Ye Damned Rebels" by Larry Brom is a set where the maneuver units are the infantry battalion and the artillery "battery." You can get them from .


KSmyth26 Aug 2021 8:35 p.m. PST

Another vote for the AWI Regimental Fire and Fury variant.

Normal Guy Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2021 9:44 p.m. PST

Another vote for AWI variant for RFNF.

Dexter Ward27 Aug 2021 2:20 a.m. PST


John Leahy27 Aug 2021 3:37 a.m. PST

Field of Battle 3 works well for the American Rev War.



Mirosav27 Aug 2021 6:08 a.m. PST

I like Guns of Liberty. Another recommendation for the British Grenadier scenario books.

Phillius Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Aug 2021 1:43 p.m. PST

Anyone tried adapting Honours of War?

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP27 Aug 2021 1:52 p.m. PST

I have done actions like Cowpens and Bennington very comfortably with The Sword and the Flame.
No. Seriously. For real. grin

Jeffers27 Aug 2021 3:15 p.m. PST

Loose Files & American Scramble, but I'm also intrigued by Fields of Glory AWI.

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP27 Aug 2021 4:55 p.m. PST

The BG scenario books are useful and serve as a basis for some of my games. However the Hubbardton scenario has very little to do with the actual battle.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Aug 2021 8:43 p.m. PST

My Fife and Drum Rules for the AWI are printed on ONE SIDE of a sheet of paper. Even better, they are free to download from the Fife and Drum Miniatures web store site.


I use a 1:10 or 1:20 ratio for my units.

Personal logo ezza123 Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2021 4:25 a.m. PST

Takeda 1x – We have started using the Liberty of Death (LoD) rules, having used the Patriots and Loyalists rules for a number of years. Having played four or five LoD games we have changed around the main parts of the quick reference sheet to reflect our thoughts on after playing the rules as written. This includes evade rules, modifiers for units without bayonets in melee and a few other things. Happy to send you, or anyone else who may be interested, a copy of our quick reference sheet along with a scenario to try out.

Old Contemptible, Jim and Der Alte Fritz – Thanks for posting links to other rules sets and will give them a go too.

Also agree with others about getting hold of the British Grenadier scenario books.


Rich Bliss29 Aug 2021 10:09 a.m. PST

Volley and Bayonet is my choice for the period

Takeda1x30 Aug 2021 11:00 a.m. PST

Thanks for the offer ezza123 on your "liberty or death!" QRS. I would be interested in what you changed after your play 4-5 games.

Personal logo ezza123 Supporting Member of TMP30 Aug 2021 12:59 p.m. PST


No problem. Do you have an e-mail address I can send the QRS and scenario to?



Takeda1x30 Aug 2021 4:14 p.m. PST

Please send email to takeda1

No space between 1 and @ sign of course.

Thanks, look forward to the email.

Thanks again

Personal logo ezza123 Supporting Member of TMP31 Aug 2021 12:40 p.m. PST

Takeda 1x,

QRS and scenario now e-mailed over to you.


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