Beaky Nose | 20 Aug 2021 11:22 a.m. PST |
I want to make a medieval Russian army and like the Fireforge minis. But the Russians are resin rather than plastic so are a bit more expensive than I want to spend because I need a lot of cavalry. Looking at their Byzantium cavakry would they be closely servicable to be Russians? They look like them to me but I could be missing something. Thank you! link |
ColCampbell | 20 Aug 2021 11:34 a.m. PST |
There may be some slight differences, especially in the horse 'barding,' but during this time period many "nation-states" in Eastern Europe and the Middle-East used very similar personal and horse armor and weapons. Also the shields are very different – teardrop for the Byzantines and round for the Russians. But if you (and your opponents) can live with that, then go for it! Jim |
Stosstruppen | 20 Aug 2021 3:03 p.m. PST |
Yeah, looks like the Koursores would be pretty close to the druzhina, except the shields, as ColCampbell noted |
Perris0707 | 20 Aug 2021 3:04 p.m. PST |
I have all three cavalry sets and I would say definitely yes to question. The Byzantines heavily influenced the Russians. |
79thPA | 20 Aug 2021 4:41 p.m. PST |
Does anyone make round shields? If not, if you had to make a shield, a round one is probably the easiest. |
Perris0707 | 20 Aug 2021 7:30 p.m. PST |
They come with both round and teardrop shields. |
Glengarry5 | 21 Aug 2021 12:09 a.m. PST |
I'm using the Fireforge Byzantine cavalry for Turkic Volga Bulgars, Russia's Islamic neighbours, with the addition of spare bow and arrow cases for the heavy and medium horse. Depending on the period Russian cavalry would also have been armed with bows and arrows. |
Beaky Nose | 21 Aug 2021 1:23 a.m. PST |
Thanks everybody. Yea, for the shields I was going to use the Russian Infantry ones along with some of their heads for different helmets. And some bows in that set too so I can add them to some cavalry. |
Swampster | 22 Aug 2021 2:43 a.m. PST |
For 12th and 13th centuries, almond/teardrop shields would be suitable instead of round. It seems to have been the dominant type for horsemen for a while. You can see Fireforge have almond shields on some of their druzhina. I would be wary of horse armour and iirc bows would be evident after the Mongol invasions. |
Druzhina | 22 Aug 2021 2:57 a.m. PST |
There are kite and almond shields in Scenes from the Life of King David. Simon Psalter, Monastery of St George, Novgorod, 1290s. Historical Museum, Moscow, Russia. Also lamellar as well as mail. mirror sites Scenes from the Life of King David. Simon Psalter, Monastery of St George, Novgorod, 1290s. Historical Museum, Moscow, Russia. Druzhina Illustrations of Russian Costume & Soldiers |
Beaky Nose | 03 Sep 2021 5:58 a.m. PST |
Well I bit the bullet and ordered my Fireforge boxes – Byzantine cavalry & horse archers, and Russian infantry. Planning on using some heads and shields from the ifnnatry to "Russian up" the Byzintines…. |