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BlackWidowPilot Fezian10 Oct 2005 8:37 a.m. PST

The following is from the France 1940 group on Yahoo. It was provided by Messr. David Lehmann, who has kindly shared the results of his labours researching the archives in Europe. The following IMO would make for a smashing good wargames secenario or mini-campaign for either 10mm or 28mm wargamers:

<<This text has been written mainly thanks to the testimony of Louis Brindejonc published in "Revue Historique des Armées" (n°1 – 1987). He is commander of a 25mm SA34 AT gun during the battle of Gembloux. Louis Brindejonc is then part of the support company (lieutenant Gaidot) of the I/2e RTM (1st battalion of the 2e Régiment de Tirailleurs Marocains). The 2e RTM (colonel Cordier) is one regiment of the 1e DM (Division Marocaine) beside the 1e RTM and the 7e RTM. The author will be captured on 21st May 1940 and kept in the Stalag VIII C in Silesia. After 2 evasions he manages to join again his regiment in Marrakech (Morocco) on 10th June 1941.

Louis Brindejonc is squad leader in a MG platoon before being transferred in the AT gun squad (including two 25mm SA34 AT guns) of the support company of the I/2e RTM.

The crew of his 25mm SA34 AT gun is following

- Caporal-chef Louis Brindejonc : commander
- Nepveu : gunner
- Moktar : assistant gunner (loader)
- Ahmed : ammunition bearer
- Lahoucine : ammunition bearer
The crew seems to be lack 1 man. They have 1 AT gun, 1 car, 1 horse and ammunitions.

On 13th May at 23h00, the I/2e RTM is deployed between Ernage and Gembloux. Brindejonc's AT gun is attached to the 1st rifle company (capitaine Couston-Lemaître). 2 rifle platoons are deployed on the main resistance line constituted by the railroad, 200 m in front of the emplacement of the AT gun. The men are preparing their foxholes.

The 25mm AT gun is 2 km north-west of Gembloux, just next to the town of Ernage. Behind the gun emplacement there is the town of Cortil-Noirmont. The majority of support company is deployed at about 200m, at the edge of a wood, with the 81mm mortars and a 20mm Mle1939 (Oerlikon) AA gun. The battalion HQ and the medical post are located in the Sart farm, on the path between Cortil-Noirmont and Ernage.

Brindejonc's AT fun is well dug in, hidden behind a small folding of the terrain and concealed by camouflage nests.

After 3 days of marching and 1 night of preparing their emplacements, the men are extremely tired. Moktar spots the first German tanks on 14th May morning. He wakes Brindejonc up but the latter doesn't see the tanks. The mountain dweller from the Atlas has sharp eyes and Brindejonc spots the enemy tanks only with its goggles: 2, 3 and then 4 German tanks appear . finally 2 other tanks are spotted more on the left for a total of 6 tanks.

The gunners arrived at night and had not the opportunity to study and reconnoitre the ground for landmarks at known range. The French AT gun opens fire .the first shot is too short, the impact can be seen in the ground in front of the targeted tank. Brindejonc orders "range 800m !" and the enemy tanks are still closing in . this shot is probably too long as nothing can be noticed . the tanks are still advancing. Brindejonc indicates then "range 600m !" and the first German tank is immediately knocked out.

A second tank, which is firing at the French infantry, is then targeted. The 25mm SA34 gun fires at high rate of fire without interruption and the second German tank is knocked out.

2 other tanks try yet to evade the issue and move in zig-zag manner, realizing only now that they are engaged by an AT gun. Unable to spot the French AT gun and its emplacement, the German tanks are successively advancing and firing aimlessly, one tank trying to cover the movement of the other one.

The impact of the 25mm shell on the left flank of the 3rd tank is clearly visible, forming a little red flash. Suddenly the turret hatch is opened: 2 men bail out and a 3rd one remains dead on the superstructure of the tank [the crew being at least of 3 men, the tank is probably a Panzer II].

Suddenly Brindejonc realized all the noise and the intensity of the battle taking place around him. The FM 24/29 LMGs and the Hotchkiss Mle1914 MGs are firing, the artillery shells are flying over the French troops and expode among the German troops.

The German advance is stopped by the accurate and intense French artillery fire. Only the 3 knocked out tanks remains on the ground in front of Brindejonc's position. Nepveu continue to fire at them to put them on fire. The rest of the day remains quiet in the area of Louis Brindejonc.

On evening, capitaine Couston-Lemaître visits the AT gun crew and congratulates them for the 3 German tanks still smoking on the battlefield. The night is quiet, only disturbed by the arrival of food supply and later by a Renault UE chenillette delivering 20 Mle1935 light AT mines. The mines are deployed 100m in front of the gun.

On 15th May, around 10h30, Brindejonc witnesses Ju87 dive bombers attacking the rear French lines and the artillery positions until 15h00. Later they bomb the whole French positions. The French air force seems absent to Brindejonc but he sees one Ju87 being shot down by the 20mm Mle1939 AA gun of the battalion.

After the bombing, the Germans renewed their assaults with tanks followed by infantry. During the first 5 minutes of the attack, Brindejonc's 25mm AT gun knocks out a 4th and a 5th tank. Targeting the tank is now easier since he has well visualized the range. Brindejonc notes that these tanks are bigger and heavier than those he had to fight on 14th May. He identifies them quickly as Panzer IIIs, according to the profiles he could study during his instruction. Nonetheless, it is not the type of the tank that amazed him . but their number. About 15 Panzer IIIs are now in front of his position, advancing, stopping to fire, using the ground very well to find hull down positions.

The 25mm AT gun fires continuously but its emplacement remains unspotted by the German tankers and is not directly threatened. The crew of the AT gun is calm, silent and disciplined. The men know their job.

There are only 15 shells left and the fire is stopped until the German tanks leave their concealed positions. Each shell has to hit its target. The AT gun remains silent during about 20 minutes, the German tanks seem not to move anymore.

Brindejonc observes the tanks with his goggles. One previously spotted turret cannot be found anymore, where is this tank now ? The Panzer III moved without being spotted. Suddenly Brindejonc sees one dark shape advancing behind a hedge. Another dark shape is stopped 30m in front of this one. This hedge is perpendicular to the railway and continues until the Sart farm. The railroad must have been crossed at one point at least. These tanks are too far to the left for the traverse of the gun. Lying on the back, the crew rotates the AT gun from several degrees. Nepveu fires on the first tank which burns immediately (probably the fuel tank which has been hit) and within 1 minute the second tank is also knocked out. The 25mm AT gun has scored 7 German tanks [probably 3 Panzer II and 4 Panzer III].

The crew is surprised that none of the tanks managed to spot the AT gun, which was firing at high rate of fire [the flash hider seems indeed very efficient]. The German tanks appeared blind but it is not the case for everyone. A Fi156 Fieseler Storch spotter plane is circling now above the positions of the 1st company at an altitude of about 100m despite the rifles firing at it. After 2 passages over the AT gun he drops a violet smoke dispenser only 20m in front of the AT gun. German mortars open then fire on the AT gun that has finally been discovered. The shells are arriving by groups of 2 or 4. The enemy mortars manage to find the good range to shell the AT gun. One shell hits directly the gun, one body is projected in the air (Lahoucine) and Nepveu is WIA on his back. Ahmed's dismantled body lies on the breech but Brindejonc is safe. The destroyed AT gun is abandoned and the men leave for the medical post under enemy fire. The farmyard is full of splinters. Brindejonc finds Moktar again, lying on a table and having lost a hand. Moktar left the AT gun and managed to reach the Sart farm alone.

French rifle platoons of the first line have retreated to the Sart farm and continue to fight. Adjudant Robert, one of the platoon leaders, is seen lying on a roof and firing on the Germans. Brindejonc is amazed by this image but also by the unusual weapon he was manning: a shotgun. Adjudant Robert is firing with buckshots at German soldiers infiltrating in the gardens next to the farm.

Lieutenant Gaidot, commander of the support company, is also wounded and present in the medical post. He orders Brindejonc to regroup isolated men, about 10 soldiers, and they go all in a stable. Gaidot indicates that the HQ has received a message from capitaine Couston-Lemaître (commander of the 1st rifle company on the first line): "I cannot hold anymore; my platoons are destroyed. If you cannot send reinforcements it will be my last message". The position of capitaine Couston-Lemaître is about 300m in front of the farm. The mission of Louis Brindejonc is now to lead the 10 men to this position to reinforce the 1st company. Suddenly a fireball, a big thunderstrike . and Brindejonc finds himself in the medical post. A German artillery shell or a bomb has hit directly the stable. One part of the farm is burning

French tanks [Renault R35s from the 35e BCC, mistakenly identified by Brindejonc as Hotchkiss H39 tanks] launch a counter-attack in the area, from Cortil-Noirmont to the railroad and the town of Ernage. The French tanks are immediately fired at. Many German shells are hitting them but they simply bounce on the armor and cannot stop them. The Renault R35 tanks go past the Sart farm and bring relief to the French troops there. They pass Brindejonc's previous AT gun emplacement and one of the tank explodes on one of the AT mines laid there by the French gunners ! The Renault R35 tanks are now much closer to the enemy and several are knocked out by German AT or tank guns. The Sart farm is burning and evacuated. The HQ and the medical post move back thanks to the counter-attack led by the French tanks.>>

Hopefully this will inspire some of you more overly-conventionally-minded WW2 enthusiasts to take a walk on the wild side of gaming and try an early war scenario where the Germans didn't have everything their own way…;-)

Enjoy!

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
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Doc Ord10 Oct 2005 8:44 a.m. PST

Very nice. I have been tempted to paint early war French.

Chalfant10 Oct 2005 1:21 p.m. PST

BWP: though I know nothing about that specific incident, the truth is there many hard fought battles for the defense of France. Desperate French soldiers doing the what they could… and for wargamers (as you are pointing out) those are actions that can be very rewarding to "play out" on a table top.

Very glad to see the excerpt, France gave up in 1940… but it wasn't because they had no brave soldiers. There were many who would have kept on fighting.

And the equipment match up is interesting, much closer than some would think.

Doc Ord: Paint 'em up. Very refreshing contrast to the late war gaming.

Patrick R10 Oct 2005 3:11 p.m. PST

I think one of the factors, aside from the vastly superior German communications network and mobility tactics, was that the French had grown either fearful and/or complacent compared to the men of 1914 while the Germans were the ones full of fighting spirit that time round.

Many people in France were too busy fighting internal politics rather than fighting the Germans.

The battle for France was a huge gamble in 1940 but a few good units keeping their heads might have made a huge difference, as the did in 1944 in the Ardennes.

BlackWidowPilot Fezian11 Oct 2005 4:28 p.m. PST

<<I think one of the factors, aside from the vastly superior German communications network and mobility tactics, was that the French had grown either fearful and/or complacent compared to the men of 1914 while the Germans were the ones full of fighting spirit that time round. >>

Not so!! The French had plenty of fight in them, look not only at this battle, but Stonne, Flavion, the rest of the Gembloux battles, Abbeville, Phillipeville, and the cadets(!) at Saumur! There are many more, and FYI: the river assault along the Meuse at Sedan was *not* an easy thing, as the B Division reservists did put up a stubborn resistance until they were simply overwhelmed (remember, they were not only second-string units, but short of equipment, weapons, and *stretched too damn thin!*

<<Many people in France were too busy fighting internal politics rather than fighting the Germans.>>

Not as many as you think….and not as many as the German propaganda machine would have us believe…;)

<<The battle for France was a huge gamble in 1940 but a few good units keeping their heads might have made a huge difference, as the did in 1944 in the Ardennes.>>

More than a few good units did, but saddled with an antiquated command/control/communications network, obsolete combat doctrine, and other major issues, the fact that the French held out as long as they did is IMO quite remarkable. I strongly recommend that you check out the France 1940 group at Yahoo, the content in the archives is quite impressive, and stuffed with information about this poorly understood period of WW2.

Hope this helps! :)

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
metal-express.net

Patrick R11 Oct 2005 4:48 p.m. PST

I'm not saying the French didn't fight hard, but I think that the French as a whole were not in a fighting mood while the Germans had been whipped up into a fighting frenzy. It's more of a mindset thing than actual courage or willingness to fight.

In 1914, the French were spoiling for a fight to avenge 1870. Four years later they emerged triumphant, but at an appauling cost in human life. I think people underestimate the trauma of WWI and its influence on the social and political scene.

Even a mildly more aggressive French stance in the 1930's would have forced Hitler to back down, but such sabre-rattling was akin to political suicide in those days. Hence Daladier returning from Munich, seeing the crowd, though he'd be lynched, but ended up cheered as a hero who preserved peace …

I am a member of the group btw …

BlackWidowPilot Fezian12 Oct 2005 3:28 p.m. PST

<<I'm not saying the French didn't fight hard, but I think that the French as a whole were not in a fighting mood while the Germans had been whipped up into a fighting frenzy. It's more of a mindset thing than actual courage or willingness to fight.>>

Yes, the French were *not* of the same psychotic mindest of their German opponents, I'll agree…

<<In 1914, the French were spoiling for a fight to avenge 1870. Four years later they emerged triumphant, but at an appauling cost in human life.>>

"L'audace! L'audace! Toujours l'audace!"

<< I think people underestimate the trauma of WWI and its influence on the social and political scene.>>

Agreed.

<<Even a mildly more aggressive French stance in the 1930's would have forced Hitler to back down, but such sabre-rattling was akin to political suicide in those days.>>

Or literal suicide; remember what happened to one member of the French government -and the king of Yugoslavia- in the '30s? Murdered by Ustashi terrorists because they were trying to build an anti-fascist coalition…

<< Hence Daladier returning from Munich, seeing the crowd, though he'd be lynched, but ended up cheered as a hero who preserved peace …>>

Yes. And there were members of the government and military who advocated standing up to the Nazis. They were in the minority, yes, but they were still there…

<<I am a member of the group btw …>>

Excellent! :)

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
metal-express.net

BlackWidowPilot Fezian16 Nov 2005 1:17 a.m. PST

Here's a reminder to my fellow Early WW2 28mm enthusiasts: Army Group North is on the verge of releasing their new 28mm kit of the *Renault R35 and R39* light tanks!

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
wwwmetal-express.net

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