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It is good to be King Supporting Member of TMP15 Aug 2021 12:15 p.m. PST

I am looking for recommendations for rules to use for The War of the Spanish Succession with 28mm figures at the Battalion Level

dbf167615 Aug 2021 12:17 p.m. PST

Beneath the Lily Banners III

Generalstoner4915 Aug 2021 10:35 p.m. PST

Age of Reason.

shadoe0116 Aug 2021 8:32 a.m. PST

Recommending rules is like recommending a movie or a restaurant – it can be a hit and miss thing, but here goes…

I've looked quite awhile for 1700-ish rules for sometime and have settled on Beneath the Lily Banners (version 3 – aka The War of the Three Kings) is the latest version. There's also a supplement for the Great Northern Wars and other conflict in Eastern Europe/the Balkans. The rules are intended to cover the period 1660-1720 – keeping in mind that pikes and even matchlocks are still in use in the WSS.

The author, Barry Hilton, and his key collaborator, Clarence Harrison, have gamed the period for along time so have a great feel for it.

In general…

Infantry battalions have three bases of 6 figures (although the number of figures aren't strictly speaking important if you use a marker to record hits) and can be all pike, pike and shot, regulation (some pike) and all musket.

Cavalry units (large squadrons or small regiments) have two bases of 3 figures and can be 'bullet' or 'blade' depending on their colonel's doctrinal choice – Austrian cuirassiers have an option to reflect their unique doctrine.

What's good about BLB3 is that some thought has been put into how they represent dragoons. They can fight mounted or choose to dismount – it reflects the flexibility of dragoons and works well. They are not just poor quality cavalry – e.g., the Dutch Guard Dragoons rated as Veteran – Elite.

The combat system is based on each troop type uses a different dice type – raw use D6, drilled D8 and veterans D10 – as high numbers are good it gets rid of a lot of modifiers. It's actually quite an elegant system.

One thing to note is that typically a player will not be able to move all of their units every turn – in keeping with the slow, ponderous maneuvers of the period. I mention it because it's not to everyone's liking, but I think it is correct for the period.

There's a number of '4Play' scenarios with 4 or 8 units per side to help get one used to the rules and ease someone into the period if they don't have miniatures already.

You can get the rule book and the supplement in hard copy or a downloadable pdf from either their UK or US websites as well as scenarios, painting guides and 28mm miniatures (Warfare Miniatures). Links to both sites are below:

leagueofaugsburg.com
warfareminiaturesusa.com

Here's also a flip through, by Wargames Illustrated, of both the rules book and supplement as well as a hard copy of scenarios:

YouTube link
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A couple of tutorials:

YouTube link
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Hopefully that's enough for you to decide if BLB3 is worth a look or not.

Cheers,

Paul

Chad4718 Aug 2021 1:16 a.m. PST

Twilight of the Sun King

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP18 Aug 2021 5:23 p.m. PST

Another vote for BLB.

18th Century Guy Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2021 6:13 a.m. PST

Ditto for BLB.

Goodtobetheking02 Jun 2022 8:33 a.m. PST

Late to this discussion, but looking for the equivalent of "Altar of Freedom" (ACW) for the WSS and/or GNW. Any suggestions?

Lancer5818 Jun 2022 11:57 a.m. PST

Had a game of War of Honour with the WSS supplement, had a good feel to it, and will be playing it again. Hoping to refight Blenheim next year and its the top contender so far.

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