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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2021 8:50 p.m. PST

So I picked some up recently. Then went for schwarma and babaganouche.
I was pleased to see that "Fyreslayer Flesh" worked, as recommended, for horses if you use two coats. That's a hell of a name for a horse color. Just saying.

Now I could use some recommendations for the following.
British Scarlet.
Jaeger green.
Caucasian Flesh.
Native American flesh.
British crimson.
Hessian (Prussian) blue.
More horse colors.

The main problem I have is the stupid names. Fine if you're a 40K player, which I am not.
Another problem is that the paints don't look like much of anything when you just stare at the bottom of the pot.

jwebster Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2021 10:57 p.m. PST

I'm still getting used to contrast paints – surprised you can afford to eat out at the same time as buying contrast paints

The other unusual thing I have found is that they change colour as they dry, so slapping more on because it doesn't immediately look right is not a good idea

John

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2021 11:01 p.m. PST

I only got 4 pots, and a friend treated me to dinner.
Had I bought the "recommended" primer, that's a car payment. I had recommended to me Satin finish spray white Krylon "Color Max" as a primer.

Blasted Brains06 Aug 2021 11:27 p.m. PST

Heck, don't buy so called 'contrast paints'. Just make your own. Take a couple or five paints you might want to use and mix them together – poorly. What you want is leaving the different colors showing so that when you move paint from palette to miniature you still have distinct colors.

At least, that is what I do and it seems to work pretty well. Alas no photo to point to but that is how I painted my brindled long horn cattle and for the horns for several different types of cattle I've painted this last year. I was pleasantly surprised at how well the brindled cattle came out.

So, John, for the caucasian flesh, I'd mix light flesh, with medium flesh, with dark flesh at 6:2:1 ratio – and mix very poorly but 'good enough'. Give it a shot and see how it works.

Have never tried any of the contrast paints. One, I won't spend money on 'hobby paints' anymore. And, two – direct from one, I only use craft paints – can get virtually any color you want – and then learning to mix really does give you: any color you want. And the price differences measured by volume is ridiculous – and in full favor of the craft paints.

And as an aside, there are some Texas long horns and African cattle that – full courtesy of mother nature – are a real hot mess. Kind of makes it hard to screw up a paint job so bad that someone can say they 'don't look like that' only to find out they actually do!

sixlasers07 Aug 2021 2:56 a.m. PST

I've been experimenting with these for medieval figures.

Blood Angels red over a white basecoat gives a nice bright red which looks as if it would be ok for Scarlet. The same colour over a Vallejo pale grey basecoat gives a more muted crimson colour.

Militarium green over pale grey gives a nice mid green colour.

For native american flesh try Guilliman flesh over pale grey. This over white might be better for european flesh but I haven't tried this yet.

Templar Black and Gore Grunta fur are good for horses.

Use the Technical Contrast medium to lighten the contrast paints.

I must say I am impressed with these paints and it has really speeded up my painting.

Hope this helps.

sixlasers07 Aug 2021 3:17 a.m. PST

Leviadon blue over white gives a nice effect but possibly to bright for Hessian blue. Over pale grey it might be better but I haven't tried this yet.

Swampster07 Aug 2021 3:26 a.m. PST

Have you seen link ?
The undercoat makes even more difference to the final result than more conventional colours. I think ultramarine blue would be the best bet for Prussian blue. I would think blood angels for scarlet and flesh tearer for crimson.

I agree with sixlasers – they have speeded up my painting too. I still highlight afterwards but the block painting is much quicker.

sixlasers07 Aug 2021 3:43 a.m. PST

Thanks for the link! Bookmarked.

Bill N07 Aug 2021 5:33 a.m. PST

I started out with Apothecary White under the assumption that I could use it both on breeches/overalls and on hunting shirts. So far the results have been less than satisfactory.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Aug 2021 6:17 a.m. PST

Also, making your own contrast paints is pretty easy. There are several vids on Youtube.

So just make up a batch from your favorite Scarlet and there you go.

cavcrazy07 Aug 2021 6:54 a.m. PST

Contrast paints!?
I'm still trying to get my wet pallet painting to look acceptable!

sixlasers07 Aug 2021 8:09 a.m. PST

Apothecary white over pale grey is good for a grey horse colour.

Hydra Studios Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Aug 2021 8:43 a.m. PST

From what I've seen on YouTube, you can transform any standard paint you use by adding Contrast Medium to the mix.

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP07 Aug 2021 9:19 a.m. PST

I've done a few overviews on flesh one for 15mm, link then another for 25/28s: link

This kind of thing:

picture

To date, I've done 45 posts featuring Contrast Paints to one degree or another and have used the majority of them: link

rvandusen Supporting Member of TMP07 Aug 2021 1:01 p.m. PST

I feel for you John. I too hate those stupid paint names. I've long learned to ignore what it says on the bottle as far a fantasy paints are concerned. Last night I used Army Painter "green skin" to paint the tunic on a Viking. I'm sure that statement will make some of the "Orcs and Dorks" crowd cringe in horror, but green is green, red is red, blue is blue, ad nauseum. Sorry if anyone is offended!

45thdiv Supporting Member of TMP07 Aug 2021 3:02 p.m. PST

I have liked the flesh ones, but I just painted some Union coats and they dried shiny. I still have not been able to work the contrast paints well at all. I'm sure it is just me as I have seen some really nice paint jobs done in contrast paints.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP08 Aug 2021 8:57 p.m. PST

I took Mollo to the FLGS that sells Contrast paints today.
I ended up with Leviadon Blue after consulting with the owner and a helpful customer. That's for Hessians and Continentals.

Here's the crazy part.
Apparently British Scarlet is Blood Angels Red, and Hessian jaegers are … Ork Flesh.
Sheesh. Why not separate them by Good Guys and Bad Guys?
Is Leviadon Good or Evil? grin

And the horse colors are apparently "Flesh" of some kind.

I miss Heritage paints, and even Humbrol. Life was simpler back then.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP08 Aug 2021 8:59 p.m. PST

YES! I am calling Citadel SILLY!
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, GW Fanboyz!
Harrumph.

Captain Clegg09 Aug 2021 2:46 a.m. PST

I have recently tried Blood Angels red over a Vallejo grey primer, seems to look ok for British coats, but then I went over it with the Foundry Light Scarlet to highlight. It does seeem to work by darkening the creases. I find I still need to highlight a bit to accentuate the shading on the clothing, it also lightens up the figure a bit.

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