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29 Jul 2021 9:13 p.m. PST
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Pyrate Captain29 Jul 2021 5:56 p.m. PST

Barring the historical problems with receiving orders from Black Tree Designs, which I am hoping is ancient history, how do BTD 28mm WWII figures compare in scale to Bolt Action, Artizan, etc. I once saw the Mark Clark figure and he seemed a little big, but then I don't know if Gen. Clark was a tall man.

Any input, experiences, etc. Thanks.

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2021 7:57 p.m. PST

They seem to be fitting in just fine. I have some other brands in the same unit as my Warlord Fallschirmjäger and I can't see the difference.

I just received more of the same. They are sitting on the table and I must say I don't have a problem putting them in the same unit with my Warlord, Artizan and Crusader figures.

I think because they are based individually, any slight difference or less noticeable. It appears to me that Warlord plastics are really about 32mm so they can seem large next to another brand. But in a game nobody notices.

I didn't order directly from Black Tree Designs. I got them through Frontline Games. Great company but their shopping cart is a little finicky.


tom dulski30 Jul 2021 4:46 a.m. PST

I'm very curious about this myself. I saw a link somewhere about this. I think this was it

CPBelt30 Jul 2021 7:25 a.m. PST

Seem fine to me as well. They match up fine with my Crusaders. I also single base.

After many years online, my articles on painting WWII Black Tree Soviets remains a perennial favorite at my blog.

tom dulski30 Jul 2021 5:38 p.m. PST

Cool blog CPBelt. Stunning work on those Soviet 28mm.

LostPict31 Jul 2021 6:06 a.m. PST

Very useful blog. I have a large pile of the BTD Soviets on washers and primed. I was going to go with Farnsworth, but now I have new plans. Must resist the urge to flit to Soviets and drop current painting projects. Thanks for a great series.

Back to the OP, I mix BTD, Crusader, Artizan, Pulp Figures, and Brigade freely. Warlord, the old Bolt Action, and Westwind do not mix as well, but that doesn't stop me from using them too for special needs. Victory Force are the only WW2 minis I have found that are just too big.

CPBelt31 Jul 2021 2:27 p.m. PST

Thanks for the compliments, Tom and LostPict! Keeping on target is always difficult, LostPic! grin

TheNorthernFront31 Jul 2021 2:33 p.m. PST

They are chunky monkey.

Thresher0101 Aug 2021 12:43 p.m. PST

Yea, that is my recollection as well, re chunky figs.

Pyrate Captain06 Aug 2021 11:15 a.m. PST

Chunky…..Excellent! Who needs a Warlord Skorzeny when BTD makes a chunky look-alike.

tom dulski10 Aug 2021 3:52 a.m. PST

ordered some Black tree and they came yesterday. They are more heroic in scale and work great with Warlord plastics. I prefer this look to the more true scale slim figures.
they don't seem overly 'Chunky" to me. very pleased with the designs and sculpts and will certainly be ordering more soon.

The GM29 Jan 2022 12:04 p.m. PST

I used to run a reviews site, and we did a multi-product of every 28mm US Infantry we could find at the time (a while ago, so info is dated). Our size comparison picture runs a line through the correct height (28mm+2mm for the poker-chip bases we used for painting). All of them – Even Battle Honors (who are only 25mm) and Tamiya (which are true 28s and feel "tall and thin") were within a millimeter or two of the line (for eyes). We used to make a big deal about size, but even super-28s look okay as the "buff guy" in the unit.

So any should do, assuming the figures haven't been re-sculpted or replaced with plastics.

Can share the picture and order of products if there's interest. Otherwise not going to spend the time finding a home for it and all.

tom dulski02 Feb 2022 4:52 a.m. PST

Is that website still around? I would like to see those size comparison pics.

The GM02 Feb 2022 1:51 p.m. PST

It isn't – we dropped all of our hobby websites several years back – but I have the pics. Lemme find a place to share the US Infantry one (it's representative for scaling), and I'll drop a link.

The GM02 Feb 2022 2:11 p.m. PST

Here you go. In the article we labeled these outside the pic to avoid overprinting. So they're abbreviated in the pic description at link, but here they are for completeness:

Top: Artizan, Bolt Action, Battleground WW2, Battle Honors, Black Tree, Crusader

Bottom: Crusader, North Star, Tamiya 1/48s, Victory Force, West Wind

(This was a single picture we cut down to fit, and crusader was included in both to reinforce to readers that it was a single picture and moving cameras, etc weren't an issue)

We have over 200 photos from this review, was crazy.


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