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Extrabio1947 Supporting Member of TMP14 Jul 2021 9:28 a.m. PST

Does anybody have any drawings or illustrations of the SYW Prussian heavy artillery limbers?

I'm not looking for pictures of models. I have the castings. I just need help with the details.

Christian Rogge's excellent blog has illustrations of the light, 3-Pounder limber, but not the one for the heavier artillery pieces.

Thank you in advance for your help.


14Bore16 Jul 2021 10:45 a.m. PST

I'm a Napoleonic era aficionado but Prussia is my favorite army so been hoping to see if anyone responds.

von Schwartz ver 216 Jul 2021 4:20 p.m. PST

Pardon my apparent ignorance but wouldn't they be really similar to the lighter ones just perhaps a wee bit heavier construction?
Not exactly an authority on the topic, but none of the mini-mfgers that I know of, make seperate limbers for 3 pounders vs 12 pounders, same hardware, just add more horses.

VonBlucher16 Jul 2021 4:30 p.m. PST

Napoleonic Prussian Limbers for 6lb's & 12lb's were different but could never find a reference for SYW though.

Personal logo Dal Gavan Supporting Member of TMP18 Jul 2021 2:59 a.m. PST

G'day, EB47.

I don't know whether you looked at Kronoskaf or not, but Christian co-wrote that the article on Prussian artillery equipment. The part that will interest you is:

During the Seven Years' War, only the 3 and 6-pounder battalion guns were equipped with such a type of limber [DG- the Linger type with ammunition chest]. As a general rule, all heavy position cannon and all howitzers had ordinary limbers throughout the war. The single exception being the Dieskau designed 14 shots light 12-pounders M1754 /1759 who were equipped with limbers that carried approx. 50% of their total allowance, or approx. 60 rounds.

To me this means that the "heavy" 12lb and larger guns would have used the simple A-frame-and-pole limbers, with the towing pintle either over the axle or behind it. Wheel diameters for the limbers may be the only distinguishing characteristic. I believe there was some sort of relationship between the limber wheel diameter and the gun's, to ensure the gun was balanced, but I couldn't find a reference.


crogge175726 Jul 2021 4:32 a.m. PST

@ Extrabio1947,

Actually I do have 2 illustrations of a Prussian limber for the heavy guns with my articles on the Prussian guns. Its the contemporary drafts of the Holtzmann M1738 24-pdr (part 2) and in part 4 the draft of the howitzers that also shows the limber for the 18-pdr howitzer M1717. The design remained rather unaltered till well into the 1770's. From the 1740' the wheels where no more then 40 Berlin Zoll tall. Before they are said to have been taller.

Hope this helps,

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