"Relocating Nathan Bedford Forrest" Topic

…Now the former slave trader's remains are set to be moved to a new Confederate museum in Columbia, Tennessee — another milestone in the effort to remove statues, monuments, and now the remains, of Confederate leaders from public spaces…

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I'm kind of surprised that the museum hasn't been burned down yet.

Good.

I wonder if they'll put him in storage with a white sheet draped over him.

"They will not be satisfied until they have removed an "f" from Jefferson's name."

-John Adams, 1776

Although Forest was an early leader in the KKK he soon resigned and denounced the org. for its excesses.

In 1869, Forrest expressed disillusionment with the lack of discipline in the white supremacist terrorist group across the South and issued a letter ordering the dissolution of the Ku Klux Klan as well as the destruction of its costumes; he then withdrew from the organization. In the last years of his life, Forrest insisted he had never been a member and made a public speech in favor of racial harmony.

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Relax everyone, it was a joke.

Maybe instead, the museum can place him near the restaurant Hot table with the advice to diners "Get there the firstest with the mostest."

Like the song says:
"You can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace"

Rewriting or cancelling history and historilca events is the first step to dictatorship not to freedom of thoughts in the name of the politically correct.

The statue was full size or larger. The remains are of course 1:1, so this entire thread has no place on TMP. Bill, if you keep doing this, it's no good pretending to be dismayed over politics tearing this place apart.

It's history, Robert.

Forrest's role in the Klan was only in the State of Tennessee. The draconian measures against veterans and supporters of the CSA and corruption of the Reconstruction Government was a major factor behind the growth of the Klan in Tennessee. Once Governor Brownlow was replaced by a more moderate and greatly less corrupt Dewitt Senter. Only then did Forrest disband the Klan.

Will you put a 28mm statue of him on your 15mm table?
His place might ge better in a museum. Not the kind of chap to celebrate on a city square. A bit like putting Tiily in Magdeburg.

Or is it history that some people don't like.

So we'll just forget about it.

Pretend it didn't happen or change the narrative.

That way everyone will feel better about it.

It is all about feelings.

How does the placement of a statue alter history? Maybe the history of statues?

Wow, in ACW discussion? This should be blue fez material.
This is current discussion on how Confederate memorials and icons should be treated.

I wonder if Nathan Bedford Forrest's address to the Poll Bearers (predecessor of the modern NAACP) convention in St Louis in 1875 will be similarly consigned to oblivion. Forrest was specially invited to address the convention in recognition of his efforts on behalf of racial reconciliation after the war.

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People really need to ask themselves what is going on in our nation right now.

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Are there any other statues in the USA erected to honor enemy commanders whose unit committed a mass murder of uniformed American servicemen after they had surrendered?

It seems very strange that any American would want to honor such a person.

As many others were, Forrest was a complicated human being. Some good, some bad. he appeared to try to make amends as he got older. There is, of course, no denying his battlefield prowess and leadership, which is worth study by Americans.

"It's history, Robert."

No, Bill, it's clickbait--and well within the ten year line. A discussion of Forrest's role in in the ACW or Reconstruction would be history. This year's removal or desecration of monuments is politics.

Any attempt to rewrite history, IS History!