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hi EEE ya Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2021 2:49 a.m. PST

Hello everyone,

Please, for which period of the history of Japan, are the figurines of the 25 mm samurai range from OLd Glory.

In my opinion all the periods are mixed in the most of the references.

But since I haven't been interested in samura´s for decades, I no longer recognize the types of their armors.? Thank you.

Rdfraf Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2021 11:41 a.m. PST

For the most part the Samurai miniatures by Old Glory are wearing the
heavily laced ō-yoroi style armor with the kyūbi-no-ita (left armpit armor) placing them as samurai of the Gempei Wars which involved the Taira and Minamoto clans.

The ashigaru figures are a bit mixed with figures that appear to be for the Gempei Wars and some appear to be for the much later Sengoku Wars.

The Old Glory figures are well animated and full of character befitting the man to man duels of the Gempei Wars plus you really can't beat the price.

But if you are doing the Sengoku Wars then you might want to check the Perry Miniatures out.

skipper John07 Jun 2021 7:48 a.m. PST

I bought the Old Glory Samurai figures many years ago because everything else was almost twice the price. And Old Glory figures are well animated, fun to paint and really easy to paint. +4!

Years later I painted them, had some painted and added some Perry Teppo to the bunch. I added Sashimono too, because those things just add another level of coolness to the look.

I am EXTREAMLY happy with my 2 Samurai armies. So much so that I've added a Perry Korean army and I'm currently painting a Ming faction.

Do I care that my Old Glory Samurai figures are not from the exact time period I mostly play? Or have Sashimono or are mixed with Teppo, or fight Koreans from another era? Oh "heck" no! I'm proud to own these little guys!

Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Jun 2021 2:04 a.m. PST

Where do you get Ming?

skipper John08 Jun 2021 6:33 a.m. PST

Research. I found a fellow here at TMP that stated, in a 2010 post, that he had purchased 28mm Ming. I was able to purchase them. I chose to paint the "Scheltrum" figures. Several photos here while preparing them for paint;

link

The partially painted Teppo are Perry figures for size comparison.

hi EEE ya Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2021 6:40 a.m. PST

Thank you Rdfraf and skipper John.

@ Rdfraf,

Thank you and well done.

You write: "For the most part the Samurai miniatures by Old Glory are wearing the heavily laced ō-yoroi style armor with the kyūbi-no-ita (left armpit armor) placing them as samurai of the Gempei Wars which involved the Taira and Minamoto clans ".

For the majority ?

Which would not be?

The Gempei Wars (1180-1185), the armor of these miniatures and the organizations of the Japanese armies of this era are valid until when?

Yes the ashigaru figures are a bit mixed with figures that appear to be for the Gempei Wars and some appear to be for the much later Sengoku Wars easily recognizable by their jingasa.

After the Heian Period c. 784-1185, which includes the Gempei Wars (1180-1185), there is the Kamakura Period which begins in 1185 and ends in 1333, includes the Mongol invasion, the armor is still different from the previous period?

Then it is the Muromachi Period c.1333-1573, the armor is still different from the previous period ?

Between the end of the invasion of the "Mongols" and the appearance of the arquebuses and the beginning of the Sengoku Wars, it's a bit of a dark age isn't it?

The Sengoku Wars then may not interest me as much as that, because as soon as we get a little interested in samurai wargames, we come across this era …

By the way, are there any "skirmish rules" specifically samurai?

Thank you.

@skipper John,

You write "Do I care that my Old Glory Samurai figures are not from the exact period I play most often?"

Or have Sashimono or be mixed with Teppo, or fight Koreans from another era? Oh "damn" no! I'm proud to own these little guys! "Me yes I love history, games like the ones you patiques do not suit me …"

Thank you.

Rdfraf Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2021 9:29 a.m. PST

This site has a basic answer to Samurai armor of different periods however as you might guess Samurai armor over time was an evolution and there would be overlaps in armor styles between periods.

link

hi EEE ya Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2021 1:15 a.m. PST

Thank you.

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