 Editor in Chief Bill   | 01 Jun 2021 11:47 p.m. PST |
The largest ship in the Iranian navy caught fire and later sank Wednesday in the Gulf of Oman under unclear circumstances, semiofficial news agencies reported.The Fars and Tasnim news agencies said efforts failed to save the support ship Kharg, named after the island that serves as the main oil terminal for Iran… link |
jurgenation  | 02 Jun 2021 4:30 a.m. PST |
Shocked,w/ their proud Naval heritage and all. |
 aegiscg47 | 02 Jun 2021 6:27 a.m. PST |
Iran tried to emulate the USN's expeditionary sea base vessels like the Lewis Puller. There are several theories here about the fire, ranging from poor maintenance to Israeli special operations. Depending upon which report you read, it sounds like it had to be sunk rather than towed back into port, which makes you wondering what it was carrying. |
| skipper John | 02 Jun 2021 6:51 a.m. PST |
They just have the worst luck… |
 David Manley | 02 Jun 2021 7:09 a.m. PST |
"Iran tried to emulate the USN's expeditionary sea base vessels like the Lewis Puller." They have, but thats irrelevant in this case as the ship that has sunk is the Kharg, a tanker built in the UK in the 1970s, and not the Makran, which is on its way to Venezuela |
| 79thPA | 02 Jun 2021 7:17 a.m. PST |
This follows two pilots being killed yesterday from an ejector seat malfunction. link |
| Bob the Temple Builder | 02 Jun 2021 7:29 a.m. PST |
David Manley, Wasn't she a modified version of the UK's Ol-class underway replenishment ships? If so, she must be at about forty years old … and probably quite worn out. |
 Legion 4 | 02 Jun 2021 7:36 a.m. PST |
I'm not too surprised about the Iranian Military's "competence" … |
| Thresher01 | 02 Jun 2021 8:32 a.m. PST |
So not the mock-up, "US Carrier" they use from time to time, eh? Bodes well for those two vessels reportedly planning a cruise over to Venezuela. And you all thought I was exaggerating when I asked why a tugboat wasn't included in that naval formation. |
| David Manley | 02 Jun 2021 9:59 a.m. PST |
Bob, yes she was. US friends – the phrase "glass houses" tends to spring to mind, considering the recent scrapping of the BHR after her fire alongside last year. |
| Tgerritsen | 02 Jun 2021 10:19 a.m. PST |
I wouldn't get too cocky. The adventures of the USS Ford and the LCS come to mind, not to mention the collisions over the past few years, fires and submarines with a habit of hitting things at high speed. We have our own issues. I say that as a USN veteran. |
| arealdeadone | 02 Jun 2021 4:13 p.m. PST |
Wouldn't be surprised if Israelis sunk her. The Israelis had already damaged the new IRCG special forces support ship with a mine: link |
| Legion 4 | 02 Jun 2021 4:19 p.m. PST |
Yes … I'll admit … I'm biased when it comes to Iran. So sue me ! 🤩😁😎 |
| Thresher01 | 02 Jun 2021 6:14 p.m. PST |
The BHR is a shame, but IIRC, it was sabotage by a disgruntled crewman that caused that. |
| David Manley | 03 Jun 2021 1:55 a.m. PST |
Does deliberate sabotage by ones own people make it any better? |
| Choctaw | 03 Jun 2021 7:47 a.m. PST |
Perhaps they should stick with their tactical bass boats. |
| 79thPA | 03 Jun 2021 9:18 a.m. PST |
It's not any better, but sabotage is completely different than maintenance issues, training issues and systems failures. |
| coopman | 03 Jun 2021 9:38 a.m. PST |
Sink'em or burn'em to a crisp by any means necessary. |
| David Manley | 03 Jun 2021 11:02 a.m. PST |
"It's not any better, but sabotage is completely different than maintenance issues, training issues and systems failures." It is, and of course the world's top flight navies suffer the same. I guess the good news was that, unlike some high profile cases over recent years, nobody was injured. |
| Legion 4 | 03 Jun 2021 2:28 p.m. PST |
Sink'em or burn'em to a crisp by any means necessary. If it come down to it … that certainly may be the outcome welcomed by the USN, USAF, etc. Remember that is what you do if a conflict occurs … Hence the term the US "Armed Forces" … |
| Thresher01 | 03 Jun 2021 2:35 p.m. PST |
No David, but as pointed out, it is very different than operational accidents or incompetence. |
| arealdeadone | 03 Jun 2021 4:00 p.m. PST |
operational accidents or incompetence. Does this include writing of a minesweeper due to lack of navigational know how or a pair of collisions with civilian freighters that resulted not only in two heavily damaged destroyers but also fatalities as well as naval aircraft losses due to poor training (also with multiple fatalities) and an AAV sunk with multiple fatalities because officers weren't following basic safety and maintenance procedures and in any case equipment maintenance is no longer conducted to a high standard?
USN's been sliding for a while now – deployments are too long, too incessant and often serve little national interest, maintenance is perpetually deferred or degraded and training budgets aren't what they used to be.
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| Tgunner | 05 Jun 2021 7:35 p.m. PST |
Sounds like they have serious damage control issues. |
| Legion 4 | 06 Jun 2021 9:48 a.m. PST |
USN's been sliding for a while now – deployments are too long, too incessant and often serve little national interest, maintenance is perpetually deferred or degraded and training budgets aren't what they used to be. And it appears it will only to be getting worse with billions of funds going other places that really should not get in those high fund amounts if at all. |
