Help support TMP


"Fake news in 1861" Topic


11 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

Remember that you can Stifle members so that you don't have to read their posts.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the ACW Discussion Message Board


Areas of Interest

American Civil War

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Link


Featured Showcase Article

CSS Mississippi

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian completes a Confederate river ironclad.


Featured Workbench Article

Deep Dream: Getting Personal

Generating portraits using Deep Dream Generator.


Featured Profile Article

First Look: Barrage's 28mm Streets & Sidewalks

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian looks at some new terrain products, which use space age technology!


Featured Book Review


1,048 hits since 31 May 2021
©1994-2025 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?


TMP logo

Membership

Please sign in to your membership account, or, if you are not yet a member, please sign up for your free membership account.
donlowry01 Jun 2021 9:36 a.m. PST

I recently ran across the following in a letter that Grant, then colonel of 21st Ill., in northern Missouri, wrote to his father on 3 Aug 1861:

The majority in this part of the State are secessionists, as we would term them, but deplore the present state of affairs. They would make almost any sacrifice to have the Union restored, but regard it as dissolved, and nothing is left for them but to choose between two evils. Many, too, seem to be entirely ignorant of the object of present hostilities. You cannot convince them but that the ultimate object is to extinguish slavery by force. Then, too, they feel that the Southern Confederacy will never consent to give up their State, and as they, the South, are the strong party, it is prudent to favor them from the start. There is never a movement of troops made, that the secession journals through the country do not give a startling account of their almost annihilation at the hands of the State troops, whilst the facts are, there are no engagements. My regiment has been reported cut to pieces once that I know of, and I don't know but oftener, whilst a gun has not been fired at us. These reports go uncontradicted here and give confirmation to the conviction already entertained that one Southron is equal to five Northerners. We believe they are deluded, and know that if they are not, we are.
Since I have been in command of this military district, (two weeks), I have received the greatest hospitality and attention from the citizens about here. I have had every opportunity of conversing with them freely and learning their sentiments, and although I have confined myself strictly to the truth as to what has been the result of the different engagements, the relative strength, the objects of the Administration, and the North generally, yet I think they don't believe a word.

Personal logo Grelber Supporting Member of TMP01 Jun 2021 9:42 a.m. PST

Sounds familiar!

Grelber

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP01 Jun 2021 10:07 a.m. PST

"Fake News" was a real issue during the ACW.

rmaker01 Jun 2021 1:16 p.m. PST

As much poor/nonexistent communications as deliberate falsehood. As in:
"Hey! I got a paper to get out, here! If nobody's gonna give me any news to write, I'll write it myself."

John the Greater02 Jun 2021 6:19 a.m. PST

In 1861 the concept of an unbiased press lay in the future. Newspapers certainly carried a lot of news and there were far more newspapers in 1861 than we have today, but it is very important to know the bias of the news source when reading these papers.

mildbill02 Jun 2021 8:21 a.m. PST

It is always critical to try to discover the bias of anything you read. Sometimes the most respectable academics
are the worst offenders.

donlowry02 Jun 2021 8:30 a.m. PST

Too true, mildbill!

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP02 Jun 2021 8:38 a.m. PST

The last sentence, where Grant talks about sticking to the truth, "yet I don't think they believe a word" is chilling. Straight talk from a man who did not waste words or play games. Thank you for this window on today.

donlowry03 Jun 2021 7:45 a.m. PST

"A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." Paul Simon

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP03 Jun 2021 7:48 p.m. PST

In 1861 the concept of an unbiased press lay in the future.

And in 2021, the same applies. It will always be in the future.

138SquadronRAF04 Jun 2021 7:29 a.m. PST

And in 2021, the same applies. It will always be in the future.

Well the repeal of the "Fairness Doctrine" on August 5, 1987 didn't help. Thinks went to pot completely on October 7, 1996…….

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.