 Murphy  | 18 May 2021 9:36 a.m. PST |
WTH?!?!…
Gone by 2022… link |
 Editor in Chief Bill   | 18 May 2021 11:50 a.m. PST |
This is the one with the 105mm gun. They say the autoloader is difficult to maintain, and the flat-bottom chassis is vulnerable to improvised explosive devices or anti-tank mines. |
| 14Bore | 18 May 2021 12:27 p.m. PST |
My plan is when the zombie apocalypse comes I'm stealing one, no need for a 105mm so that's OK by me. |
| Striker | 18 May 2021 1:25 p.m. PST |
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| Major Mike | 18 May 2021 1:50 p.m. PST |
Should have put the ARES gun system on it with HEAT ammo and a proximity fused HE for anti helo work. But, heck, if I knew anything I'd be raking in the big bucks selling overpriced goods and making great profits for my company. Going to be hard for the Cav people that felt it was their "tank". |
| arealdeadone | 18 May 2021 2:39 p.m. PST |
Already? Yet another failed US weapons program. |
| emckinney | 18 May 2021 3:38 p.m. PST |
Gee, just because it couldn't fire the gun to the side in many circumstance because of the high center of gravity and the recoil? Yeah, a problem that critics brought up in the design phase. I guess this is the formal budget announcement, but the decision was in the military press over a year ago. |
| Murphy | 18 May 2021 6:11 p.m. PST |
I'm just finding it weird…
The navy is decommissioning a SH8TL0AD of ships with NO replacements for them, (or even plans for replacements).
The air force cancelling the F35 and looking at axing the F22…
The jarheads getting rid of their tanks….
And the army and this… |
| Augustus | 18 May 2021 6:20 p.m. PST |
So…do we still have a military then? |
Shagnasty  | 18 May 2021 6:39 p.m. PST |
The Harsh Language Corps. |
| epturner | 18 May 2021 7:46 p.m. PST |
Well considering the number of times they flambe themselves on their own accord… No one I know that has to deal with them is crying… Eric |
| Striker | 19 May 2021 4:37 a.m. PST |
So…do we still have a military then? I don't think it matters. If it's not going to fight then there's nothing to worry about. If it's just a grand social experiment/processing system then all is well. |
| Thresher01 | 19 May 2021 4:51 p.m. PST |
A real shame, though given the very limited ability to rotate the turret and fire the gun, without knocking it over on its side, I'd not sure how big an issue this is. Seems like ones firing TOW and similar missiles are probably more practical, since at least those car fire at targets outside of the front 30 – 60 degree frontal arc, safely. Many/most of our vehicles are vulnerable to mines and IEDs. |
 Legion 4 | 21 May 2021 8:44 a.m. PST |
I saw the same article in Military.com. It seems the system did have some flaws. And as usual there are better systems available or coming out, etc. I remember when I was in the 101, when the UH60 replaced the UH1. Now they talking about replacing the UH60. Tech advances very quickly today, as we know. f it's not going to fight then there's nothing to worry about. If it's just a grand social experiment/processing system then all is well. BINGO ! Just look at the new Army & CIA recruiting commercials vs. the latest Russian versions. The Russians want warfighters … the US … I'm not sure what they want ? The Harsh Language Corps. Be careful there would be certain things they couldn't say … it may upset some with "sensitive" feelings, etc., … |
| Striker | 22 May 2021 12:12 p.m. PST |
At least now the blunders of acquisition aren't as hidden as before, but it is interesting to see the total lack of shame at wasting millions on something that should have been found out in design or testing at the latest. All the branches are getting in the game. |
| Garand | 23 May 2021 1:54 p.m. PST |
It was never an especially great system. The Strykers with the 30mm remote turret are a better option than this. If the target is soft or lightly armored, the 30mm should do a good job. If the target is armored, you have TUA Strykers for that. Personally I'm surprused it was still even in service. I thought the Army got rid of them already! Damon. |
| Legion 4 | 07 Jun 2021 8:50 a.m. PST |
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