"Magnesia OOBs or best educated guess" Topic

Does anyone have a reasonable OOB for Magnesia that I can use with Sword and Spear rules? I question mightily the primary sources and question their reporting integrity just a little. Suffice it to say I do not believe 30,000 troops totally routed 72,000. We will never truly know without time travel but I am looking for a line up that is reasonable and give an interesting table battle. I do plan to have the Roman troops have a quality edge for starters. This is one of those battles that has been on my gaming bucket list and I have the troops assembled just need to finish painting and basing them now, almost there….

Antiochus may have 72,000 men, but how many soldiers? He lost nearly 10,000 in Greece as he fled the legions.

It seems the Roman/Pergamum army outclassed the Seleucids in every way, except numbers. However everything went wrong for Antiochus that could go wrong except where his cataphracts outflanked the legions. But it is hard to win when a third of your army runs away before even getting off a shot (because of fog, and Cretan archers starting a panic among the scythed chariots, which erased about 25,000 of the Seleucid force), then half your army is surrounded and runs away, and then the rest gathered at the Roman camp have to run away because the remnants are outnumbered. If you count all the troops that actually did some fighting, the Seleucids were outnumbered.

That being said- here is an excellent game based OOB for Magnesia by Luke-Ueda Sarson.

lukeuedasarson.com/Magnesia.html

Here is his re-play, which without the Seleucid left wing debacle is a nail biter:
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If in doubt I usually go with the OBs in "Lost Battles" by Phil Sabin.

I find Luke Ueda-Sarson work generally well researched and thought out. Highly recommended. I would also use Lost Battles as a starting place in my research.

Luke Ueda-Sarson and Lost Battles are good starting references. The composition of the Seleucid army is well documented except for 10,000 men who are not described. They may be the Argyraspids (or their replacements if they were lost in Greece). These were the Seleucid foot guard/standing army and were kept at a strength of 10,000 The quality of the 10,000+ light troops is uncertain.