"Mysterious Austrian flag (from the Un Contre dix discussion)" Topic
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| Erzherzog Johann | 24 Apr 2021 1:31 p.m. PST |
I posted this question the other day but it may have been lost in the maelstrom.On the other hand, it may simply be that no one has a clue: ""a single flag, that of the PERSONAL flag "that had been brought to the fight"." Just out of interest, does anyone have any idea what this might have been?" I would be interested if anyone knows anything about this "personal flag" business. Cheers,
John |
| Artilleryman | 24 Apr 2021 1:34 p.m. PST |
What is the context? And do you have the statement in the original language? |
| GurKhan | 24 Apr 2021 2:15 p.m. PST |
What the source previously cited ( link p.167 fn.7) actually says is not "a personal flag" but "the flag of the PERSONAL regiment" ("celui du regiment de PERSONAL"). Seems an odd name for an Austrian regiment … |
| Musketballs | 24 Apr 2021 3:22 p.m. PST |
See this article by Enrico Acerbi at Nap-Series. link Perfectly explains how the Hungarian & Croat Insurrection worked, and how a 'Personal' Insurrection unit fits in. |
| GurKhan | 24 Apr 2021 3:43 p.m. PST |
Aha! And at link is an article about the Croatian insurrectio during the 1809 campaign, which mentions how both the Turopolje regiment and another "personal" unit lost their flags in action on June 25-26! |
| SHaT1984 | 24 Apr 2021 3:45 p.m. PST |
Well first of all it's not English is it?
So the word means something different to what it looks like.
So a pronoun of some town/district etc. and inference being a local flag, not an army -regulated banner.
Just a thought, nothing more…
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| Erzherzog Johann | 24 Apr 2021 7:19 p.m. PST |
Ah! It all makes sense now. So it was probably the standard of an Insurrectio Personalis unit. Thank you everyone. Oh, and according to Dave Hollins, the Croatian Personalis had madder-red shakos :-D Cheers,
John |
| Stoppage | 25 Apr 2021 5:41 a.m. PST |
@d This'll help: Google Translate – Croatian Soldier – Croatian insurrection 1809 It explains that the Personalis insurrection was populated by minor nobles that could not raise their own troops. The poorer ones served as infanteers, the wealthier ones as cavaliers. PS. It also refers to Mali Losinj – had a very nice holiday a number of years ago. The highlight – catching the ferry to Dubrovnik whilst sipping a real coffee – served by a very, very rude barista – who shaped up later on after I woke him up whilst sleeping on duty :) |
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