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SHaT198420 Apr 2021 10:50 p.m. PST

Soooo, what happened here…?

The answer- same as their regiments. There is no other answer… done_d

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP21 Apr 2021 1:28 a.m. PST

Yes, same as their parent regiments. So in an average grenadier battalion of six companies (there were a few with four) each 'dvision' of two companies would have the same facing colour leading to three different colours in each battalion. As an example, in 1809, Grenadier Battalion Hahn had companies from IR 2 (Imperial Yellow), IR 33 (Dark Blue) and IR 39 (Poppy Red).

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP21 Apr 2021 7:26 a.m. PST

That is how I painted them. Parent regiment's colors. It made sense (admittedly not a great reason for expecting anything to be a certain way, of course, if you read history.)

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP21 Apr 2021 11:34 a.m. PST

I paint mine up with the same colour as the parent regiments – while it should be three colours per battalion the lazy painter in me mostly does two different colours per battalion

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP21 Apr 2021 3:36 p.m. PST

It's not 100%, but it seemed to me that six-company battalions were more common in Germany and four-company battalions more common in Italy. But the nice thing is you can mix and match.

GrazingFire21 Apr 2021 3:47 p.m. PST

Thanks for all you responses.

Fat Wally22 Apr 2021 1:47 a.m. PST

Grenadier Battalions Serving With the Main Army in the Danube Valley

Nissel/Berger (#15 ‘Zach', #28 ‘Frelich', #57 ‘Joseph Colloredo')
Bissingen (#3 ‘Archduke Charles', #50 ‘Stain', #58 ‘Beaulieu')
Brzeczinksy (#24 ‘Strauch', #30 ‘De Ligne', #41 ‘Kottulinsky')
Cappy/Oklopsia (#12 ‘Manfredini', #20 ‘Kaunitz', #23 ‘Würzburg')
Stark/Demontant (#7 ‘Schröder', #18 ‘Stuart', #21 ‘Rohan')
Hohenlohe/Hromada (#1 ‘Kaiser', #29 ‘Lindenau', 38 ‘Württemberg')
Peccaduc/Legrand (#9 ‘Czartorysky', #55 ‘Reuss-Greitz', #56 ‘Wenzel Colloredo')
Wieniowsky/Frisch (#10 ‘Mittrowsky', #11 ‘Rainer', #47 ‘Vogelsang')
Georgy (#17 ‘Reuss-Plauen', #36 ‘Kollowrath', #42 ‘Erbach')
Hauger/Portner (#40 Joseph Mittrowsky', #44 ‘Bellegarde', #46 ‘Chasteler')
Puteani/Jambline (#14 ‘Klebek', #45 ‘Devaux', #49 ‘Jordis')
Leiningen (#25 ‘Zedtwitz', #35 ‘Argentau', #54 ‘Froon')
Mayblümel/Trenck/Locher (#8 ‘Archduke Ludwig', #22 ‘Koburg', #60(H) ‘Gyulai')
Scovaud (#4 ‘Hoch-und-Deutschmeister', #49 ‘Kerpen', #63 ‘Baillet-Merlemont')
Hahn/Habinay (#2(H) ‘Hiller', #33(H) ‘Sztarray', #39(H) ‘Duka')
Kirchenbetter (#34(H) ‘Davidovich', #37(H) ‘Weidenfeld', #48(H) ‘Vukassovich')
Scharlach/Purcell (#31(H) ‘Benjowsky', #32(H) ‘Esterházy', #51(H) ‘Splényi')

Grenadier Battalions Serving In Italy & Hungary

Albeck/Chimany (#13 ‘Reisky', #43 ‘Simbschen')
Salomon/Welsperg (#16 ‘Lusignan'. #26 ‘Hohenlohe-Bartenstein', #27 ‘Strassoldo')
Janusch/Gersanich (#19(H) ‘Alvinczy', #52(H) Franz Karl, #61(H) ‘St. Julien')
Mühlen/Zedtlar (#53(H) ‘Johann Jellachich', #62(H) ‘Franz Jellachich')

SHaT198422 Apr 2021 5:05 p.m. PST

@Fat Wally – you should provide a date/ time era/ campaign when giving such info…

All such info is also available in the 'Redux' thread… of the 'Discussions' page_ much documented and detailed, over and over,
cheers d

Desperate Dan09 Sep 2021 6:52 p.m. PST

If you can get a copy of Essling, in the Histoire + Collections series,there's a plate at the end of the book with the 2 divisions of grenadiers, their groupings, colours, and parent battalion numbers. Recommended reading throughout, great illustrations. DD

SHaT198409 Sep 2021 8:03 p.m. PST

>>Recommended reading throughout, great illustrations. DD

Err yeah, be careful with those. Not found to be 100% accurate as to shade or print quality I'm afraid. For their price they are, IMHO, less reliable than the much maligned Funckens, for whom I have immense respect in bringing the period alive .
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