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Warspite107 Apr 2021 8:15 a.m. PST

YouTube link

An excellent description of how these unusual weapons worked.


79thPA Supporting Member of TMP07 Apr 2021 8:52 a.m. PST

Thanks. I'll watch that when I get the chance.

Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Apr 2021 9:04 a.m. PST

Good one.
Seems that the Hussites by chance stumbled over this one and unleashed a host of imitations around western and eastern Europe, up to the Gulay-Gorods of Russia.

Lucius07 Apr 2021 11:34 a.m. PST

Jan Ziska saw warwagons used in Poland, IIRC.

But what made it work was the ferocious discipline of the Hussites under Ziska.

Wagon crews were standardized, with each member having well-defined roles. They could cover 2x the distance of a typical late medieval army on the march, due to having dedicated engineers. They even managed a successful night breakout attack.

It was leadership and morale that made them lethal, not just wagons.

JimDuncanUK07 Apr 2021 11:40 a.m. PST

Interesting combinations of words from the speech to text subtitles.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP07 Apr 2021 8:56 p.m. PST

This is very interesting. Ditto to Jim's comment above about the subtitles but if you get rid of that it was good. I was distracted by the to much uniformity of the address of the various participants everybody was dressed the same which I doubt. Nevertheless I found it very informative especially about the numbers of troops involved on each wagon and the roles they played.

Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Apr 2021 3:03 a.m. PST

I am interested in any usage of warwagons that predates the Hussites, especially when they inspired this specific line. Do you have any sources or battles where wagons were used other then a defended lager?

Afaik the first usage of the Hussites was when their army was surprised by a superior force and all they could do was to defend their train, which was so effective they made it a tactic, which then led to wagons specifically build for battlefield usage. I have to admit however that several lines of military warfare, especially in Eastern Europe, leave great gaps in my knowledge.

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