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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian05 Apr 2021 10:00 p.m. PST

Effective immediately, each TMP forum will allow each member to create no more than five new topics per day (i.e., the previous 24 hours).

The limit applies per forum, so for instance, you could post 5 topics on the main forum, 5 topics on Marketplace, and 5 topics on TMP Plus in the same 24-hour period.

Korvessa05 Apr 2021 10:18 p.m. PST

A good start….

Thresher0105 Apr 2021 11:42 p.m. PST

Why?

I thought there was a poll, and this idea was nixed.

Is this REALLY an issue?

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 12:02 a.m. PST

That is sensible Bill
Thanks for all the good work you do.

Thresher0106 Apr 2021 12:07 a.m. PST

Less content rather than more to view/read seems to me to be counter-productive to retaining TMP member interest.

Black Hat Miniatures06 Apr 2021 1:07 a.m. PST

Seems a very sensible idea to me – how often does anyone other than Tango need to create 5 topics in a day?

Mike

badwargamer06 Apr 2021 1:41 a.m. PST

As a supporter of Tango I think it is a shame it has come to this, but on the plus side I hope it will bring an end to the recurring anti-Tango threads.
I hope Armand will find the positive in the restriction and use the time gained to his advantage.

LorenzoMele06 Apr 2021 1:41 a.m. PST

Anotner rule "ad personam".

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 1:58 a.m. PST

I've long thought this would be an excellent policy.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 2:02 a.m. PST

Anotner rule "ad personam".

Nonsense.
Nor is it ex post facto, nor ad hominem nor a bill of attainder.

Thresher0106 Apr 2021 2:16 a.m. PST

I believe Lorenzo IS correct, as shown by a post above, as well as various machinations of late.

A sad day for those interested in Tango's posts.

On the plus side I guess, there'll be more time for me to peruse other sites to get news about new miniatures products, battle reports from others, miniatures kickstarters, etc., etc., since a lot of that has been banned from being posted here now too.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 4:54 a.m. PST

A good start….

Yeah…maybe we can hit the ideal of 0 Topics per person in the near future….

evil grin

I thought there was a poll, and this idea was nixed.

There was and it was.

charared Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 5:28 a.m. PST

AGAIN, YOU NO LONGER NEED MY $ BILL. Good luck in your future endeavors!

(Tango's presence here was a prime reason I stayed on TMP)

Stoppage Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 5:43 a.m. PST

@charared

Stylish flounce!

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 6:03 a.m. PST

Thank you Bill. A variety of new posts and posters each day, including Tango's 5 best selections for the 24 hour period, is what makes this a forum for me.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 6:26 a.m. PST

The subject everyone is weeping over here is incapable of following the rules. Period.
He knows he is not supposed to link to items on eBay. He does it anyway. That's why he's in jail now, and why he was in jail two weeks ago.
He knows he's not supposed to link to sites that offer copyright violation material. Yet, he does it all the time.
He knows he's not supposed to link to Kickstarter projects who do not advertise on TMP. Yet he continues to do so.
The above not only deprives this site of advertising revenue, but puts TMP in possible legal jeopardy.

I once counted 57 new threads in one day. Some exile on another site with too much time on his hands keeps records and claims his record is 71. The main effect of that is to drive interesting threads off the front by sheer volume. Gresham's Law certainly applies here.

Does he post interesting things? Of course. But what percentage is actually interesting? If he can actually show some discipline instead of vacuuming up anything and everything, the ratio might rise.
Perfect example of a fascinating thread was the one about Poland declaring war on Japan. Why can't he confine his talents to things like that, instead of quizzes on George Washington's teeth?

Wheat and chaff. Pure and simple.

rustymusket06 Apr 2021 6:57 a.m. PST

For what it is worth, I am in agreement with John on this. This particular rule seems not at all onerous.

Cerdic06 Apr 2021 7:25 a.m. PST

So, we're about to see how good Tango's quality control skills are…?

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 7:38 a.m. PST

This particular rule seems not at all onerous.

I agree. And it applies to me too! And to you! And to all the others!

LorenzoMele06 Apr 2021 7:43 a.m. PST

Let's extend it to forum posts too. There is people writing too much. This is annoying too.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 7:59 a.m. PST

Yeah – maybe we could limit all posts to 144 characters.

evil grin

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 8:34 a.m. PST

I think this is not about our posts or being annoyed by members writing. That's what we are here for, to have a forum and conversations.

I think this is about a single member flooding the message boards with topics every day. I welcome Tango's return at 5 topics per day. It is not meant to be quality control either, although I hope that happens for him.

With all due respect to Tango, I think he should start his own site if he wants to provide the particular service he has created. He can still post 5 topics here, and anyone could go to his site to use his news and topic finding service.

And by the way Tango, I would love to have you share some of your own experiences with miniatures here, if you would do us the honor. Your games and figures look very interesting.

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 9:06 a.m. PST

"With all due respect to Tango, I think he should start his own site if he wants to provide the particular service he has created. He can still post 5 topics here, and anyone could go to his site to use his news and topic finding service."

This is the part that I have never been able to wrap my head around. If so many gamers like his stuff and he wants to post, write about gaming topics, etc., why doesn't he just set up his own site or blog? Then gamers can hang out there as often as they want to and he can post 100 or more times a day. My guess is that it would be too much work and not having a built in audience like TMP it would collapse fairly quickly.

Thresher0106 Apr 2021 10:40 a.m. PST

Actually, I think it would be an excellent idea for him to consider, or someone working with him, and I suspect it would quickly outpace TMP for the number of clicks, posts, visits, etc., etc., since he comes up with so much interesting stuff.

When he's gone, I can visit every 2 – 3, or 4+ more days and not see much more new content posted here, which is just sad.

Even more saddening is the sharp reduction, and/or lack of a lot of news about new miniatures products and whole product ranges here anymore, and/or kickstarters, etc., as well as discussions about them, given recent changes here on TMP. I imagine I am not alone in that concern.

There used to be a pretty robust and in depth discussion on a lot of topics. Now I find the input is superficial at best, and in some cases no one responds to posts, inquiries, etc..

I usually now get a lot of info about new miniatures ranges, miniatures, KS, etc. on Facebook and NOT here, and am seeking other site links that post more up to date info on those, regardless of whether they are advertisers on those sites or not. I suspect in many cases that the clicks and the revenue generated from people visiting those sites more than makes up for any direct advertising they may or may not pay for on them.

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 11:25 a.m. PST

"and I suspect it would quickly outpace TMP for the number of clicks, posts, visits, etc., etc., since he comes up with so much interesting stuff."

Highly doubtful. My guess is that it would quickly blend in with the other thousands of blogs, forums, sites, etc. Not to mention all he does is scrape images and stories from other sites.

"There used to be a pretty robust and in depth discussion on a lot of topics"

As mentioned above, TMP is in competition with gaming sites, various forums, who knows how many Facebook groups, etc. All of them have pros and cons, but the hobby at the moment is a mile wide and an inch deep.

Texaswalker06 Apr 2021 1:03 p.m. PST

Citing 20thmaine:

A good start….
Yeah…maybe we can hit the ideal of 0 Topics per person in the near future…

Exactly!, and then none of us will have to waste any time looking at TMP at all, I can see how this really makes sense for improving the website; this is the ultimate way to save time.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 1:34 p.m. PST

TMP need not worry. There are plenty of us who would rather be here than on Facebook, having to join a dozen different groups there to cover your interests. Besides, it's Facebook and I am not getting involved.

This is an important gaming forum, it remains a real resource for active gamers looking for practical information, and to share experiences. This is where I can discuss the validity of rally rules for Napoleonic gaming with a range of people who have diverse views and historical perspective, and a lot of experience. Which I recently did with many helpful responses. I have not found this to be the case elsewhere. A Tango site would be a curiosity, TMP is more foundational for the hobby.

BTCTerrainman Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 1:47 p.m. PST

The best thing I ever did here was to block Tango. My TMP experience has been so much better. Now I get to see a whole week's worth of posts easily. Much more enjoyable to follow the threads.

Yesthatphil06 Apr 2021 1:53 p.m. PST

I'm fine with how things have been.

No need to change but if change must come, I can live with it. I've never exceeded those parameters myself – I just hope it doesn't mean there's a Tango find that ends up not being shared.

Could we also stop having to add in those annoying credit posts? They do spoil my enjoyment.

Everyone has an opinion, I guess …

Phil

LorenzoMele06 Apr 2021 1:57 p.m. PST

BTC you did well to improve your TMP use.
Why we need this rule if everybody can choose to block him?
I do not understand, this decision just damages who is interested to read Tango's posts.

Korvessa06 Apr 2021 3:35 p.m. PST

I am with BTC.
I also blocked -him.
I still find TMP useful and check multiple times a day

Personal logo SHaT1984 Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 3:37 p.m. PST

Normally I wouldn't bother… [sigh***]

Given the 'ad hominem' has arrived, perhaps other policies should be put in place:
- no fake ads being permitted that go to out of date/ expired web sites?
- no decades old 'news' items in the sidebar?
- errr…
thats all for now…

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian06 Apr 2021 5:19 p.m. PST

no decades old 'news' items in the sidebar?

Can you be specific? As far as I know, the only Hobby News items in the sidebar are from the past 30 days.

no fake ads being permitted that go to out of date/ expired web sites?

Please explain, as I have no idea what you're on about.

CeruLucifus06 Apr 2021 9:28 p.m. PST

I suggest we let this rule run for a while, and see how difficult it is to abide by. It doesn't seem very onerous to me.

When we have experience with it, then we can suggest improvements.

emckinney07 Apr 2021 9:24 a.m. PST

I guess this does in the accusation that Bill is actually Tango!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP07 Apr 2021 2:01 p.m. PST

Can I just be clear?

"The limit applies per forum"

So Tango could put five topics on WWII Discussion and five on Napoleonic Gallery and five on ACW Media each day and that would be OK?

I accept only so long as they are more than just links, with no added content, that do not rate discussion within at least four hours.

If so, that sounds more than reasonable to me. If I have understood that correctly, it sounds like the Wisdom of Solomon and should satisfy the Tangophobes, the Tangophiles and the Tangosceptics. Maybe even Tango himself!

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP07 Apr 2021 2:18 p.m. PST

Can I just be clear?

"The limit applies per forum"

So Tango could put five topics on WWII Discussion and five on Napoleonic Gallery and five on ACW Media each day and that would be OK?


No. Those are BOARDS, not FORUMS.

Bandolier07 Apr 2021 10:03 p.m. PST

Reading between the lines of Bill's post, it appears this is largely of Tango's own doing.

Seems reasonable to me. I am happy that he's still able to post and the rule is applied to all.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP07 Apr 2021 11:55 p.m. PST

Apologies. I got that totally wrong! I tend to do that…..

John Leahy08 Apr 2021 3:43 a.m. PST

Bill, I think he is talking about the items posted inside a topic on the left of the screen. many are pre 2010. I find it interesting to 'flash back'.

Thanks.

John

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2021 6:08 p.m. PST

We are hobbyists on a miniatures forum commenting on policy to resolve an ongoing issue.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2021 6:09 p.m. PST

Yes, thank you.
I also wear my mask at all times, even when I'm taking a shower in my own house.
Bleeped text

USAFpilot Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2021 7:35 p.m. PST

Of course you do.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2021 8:01 p.m. PST

You see, the mask is annoying. My glasses fog. And when I sneeze, before I have the chance to pull my mask down and sneeze into my elbow, it's frankly disgusting.
But, guess what? I'm a Real Man. I can take it.
It's the snowflakes who get the vapors and reach for the smelling salts who can't.

USAFpilot Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2021 8:50 p.m. PST

When you are driving your car and by yourself, do you wear a mask? Deleted by Moderator

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2021 9:08 p.m. PST

I'll never tell. I'm in Customer Service.
FREEDOM!!!!!

USAFpilot Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2021 8:39 a.m. PST

FREEDOM!!!!!

Preach it brother. "Live free or die", official motto of NH.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP10 Apr 2021 3:28 p.m. PST

I only associate that with an Aussie actor trying to put on a Scottish accent (in a film that confuses historical sequences massively) just before he is emasculated and disembowelled ( with very little facial upset).

The same Aussie actor who could repeatedly fire a musket in the AWI, without ever reloading properly, in "The Patriot". Just like Laurence Harvey as Travis, with his pistol, in the original Alamo. Never had to reload or ram home a charge.

FREEDOM comes from an automatic SLR……..unless in the hands of a lunatic

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP12 Apr 2021 11:57 a.m. PST

FREEDOM comes from not needing an automatic SLR, perhaps.

I enjoyed Bravehart, and it led men to a lot of Scottish history where I discovered that there was not a lot of history in Braveheart.

dapeters13 Apr 2021 10:58 a.m. PST

Freedom comes from Health Care not tied to employeement, education not tied to income.

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