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The Silver Fox05 Apr 2021 3:17 p.m. PST

I am interested in playing Dux Bellorum (Dark Ages in Britain) using 6mm or 10mm. Any suggestions on where to find either 6mm or 10mm Romano-British/Sub-Roman, Welsh, Irish or Pictish?

I have searched in Baccus, Irregular and 2D6 Wargaming for 6mm, and in Pendraken, Irregular, Old Glory and Magister Militum in 10mm. I only found some Pictish in Pendraken (10mm), but nothing else. It seems like Dark Age miniatures at these two scales are limited to the late Dark Ages, just outside the intended dates for Dux Bellorum (and the poor Welsh, I cannot find them even in 15mm, let alone 6mm or 10mm!).

Is the idea to use substitutes, like Late Roman for Romano-British, or ancient Celts or Gauls for the Welsh/Irish/Pictish?

Any suggestions would be most welcome.

sillypoint05 Apr 2021 6:54 p.m. PST

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No offence, but my friend Mark reckons you can use anyone as "wooly jumpers".

I don't know what he means…🤪😜

Although, at those scales he may have a point.

Porthos06 Apr 2021 2:53 a.m. PST

Perhaps Magister Militum ?

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Baueda had Late Welsh in 15mm, but unfortunately I cannot find them on their website (http://www.baueda.com/hostis.html).

And Lancashire Games has farmers for the HYW, but who can see the difference with centuries before that ?

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BillyNM06 Apr 2021 6:46 a.m. PST

No Welsh but here's the Baueda site: baueda.com/hostis.html

Also some of the Kallistra ranges will work as Dark Age: kallistra.co.uk/?page=18

Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2021 9:50 a.m. PST

Back when it was much harder to get Arthurian British figures, I built these armies in 15mm using a lot of substitutions.

I used Vikings to fill in the ranks as Hengist/Horsa Saxons. Saxon leaders need Saxon-specific helmets and armor, but standard unarmored sword-and-shield or spear-and-shield Vikings look the part of any wild Germanic invader in smaller scales.

The look of the sub-Roman British and Welsh is pretty much guesswork anyway, so unarmored or mail-clad late Romans can fill in as pedyt. I personally preferred to avoid figures wearing segmented armor, even if it seemed plausible, because they just looked too "Roman". These days I would also use putty to make the helmets conical to help the "not a Roman" impression, but I didn't back then, and that's probably not feasible with 10mm or smaller figures.

Look through the lines of late Roman period German invaders for figures to serve as British cavalry. I used 15mm Goths as British because they had round shields, conical helmets, spear and mail.

- Ix

Legionarius06 Apr 2021 10:32 a.m. PST

At scales below 15mm hairy a bunch of guys with round shields and pointy sticks can pass for all manner of barbarian. Late Romans and Byzantines will pass for well armed barbarians as well as what their intended to be. At wargaming distance they become blurry without field glasses! Cheers and good gaming!

Steamingdave206 Apr 2021 10:36 a.m. PST

Kallistra do Arthurian, Saxons etc. They are 12mm, but I use them on the same table as some Pendraken 10mm ranges. I have also used the Kallistra medieval Welsh spearman to represent earlier warriors.

kallistra.co.uk/?page=18

Pendraken have several Dark Age ranges, in addition to the Picts

pendraken.co.uk/dark-ages

The Silver Fox06 Apr 2021 12:31 p.m. PST

This is all very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

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