"Favorite English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh regiments for WSS" Topic
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Gallocelt | 30 Mar 2021 1:36 p.m. PST |
I am making preparations to begin painting 15mm WSS. I would like to start with some "British" units. (Yes, I know early regiments are pre-British.) Since my goal is not to recreate historical battles, but to make interesting and colorful units, I would like to ask: What are your favorite British units for WSS and why? I am including the whole "British" army, infantry, cavalry, artillery, marines. If the unit serves in Spain, Flanders, Germany, it's all fair game. The only "gotta have it" unit on my list is 1st Foot Guards. Since I reside in the USA, I don't have regional loyalties in the UK, but I don't mind if you do . . . OK gents, have at it! Cheers! Gallo |
Frederick | 30 Mar 2021 2:19 p.m. PST |
Good choice with 1st Regiment, Foot Guards (English) Scots Fusiliers (Scottish) Good units and their lineal successors continue to serve the Crown Both were at Blenheim |
Gallocelt | 30 Mar 2021 3:30 p.m. PST |
Scots Fusiliers – Rowe's 21st Foot Scot's Fusiliers. Yes! Hmmmm . . . not sure if they wore the fusilier/ grenadier cap or the tricorne. I will definitely need a Scottish regiment. Cheers! Gallo |
Frederick | 30 Mar 2021 4:13 p.m. PST |
And – as noted – they live on in the Royal Regiment of Scotland! |
Scotty66 | 30 Mar 2021 11:37 p.m. PST |
I have 1st Regiment of Foot Guards and Scots fusiliers in my British army, I do have Le régiment de Clare in my French allied army YouTube link |
Gallocelt | 31 Mar 2021 7:48 a.m. PST |
Wow! Those figures look great, Scotty66. Both your painting and basing are top notch. My figures are 15s, Mostly Minifigs, Roundway, Dixon, Blue Moon, and a few Scale Creep. I doubt if they will look as impressive as yours when painted. I do have some experience with painting but very little with modern basing. I've yet to use static grass but I have some ready to go. :) BTW, do you have tricornes or grenadier/ fusilier caps on your Scots Fusiliers? Cheers!
Gallo |
Scotty66 | 03 Apr 2021 1:46 a.m. PST |
Thanks,my bases are just a bit of household filler, pva to add some patches of sand. Painted brown and dry brushed buff. Then just some static grass added. My Scots Fusiliers all have the cut down fusiliers caps. |
Gallocelt | 03 Apr 2021 6:41 a.m. PST |
The following is from 42flanker: Among the more colourful might perhaps be the infantry regiments that subsequently, in the 1740s, were authorised to display their Ancient Badges on colours and appointments although it is not known for sure at what date some of these were adopted- They included: Prince George of Denmark's Regiment (or various Colonels') Later the 3rd Regt or the Buffs A Green Dragon The Queen's Regiment of Foot, or Seymour's Later the 4th King's Own Regiment The Lion of England The Irish Regiment of Foot, or Pearce's Later the 5th Regiment St George and the Dragon Various Colonels: Rivers'- Southwell's – Harrison's Later the 6th Regiment The Antelope (said to date from X Saragossa, with no proof Royal Regiment of Ireland (Hamilton's;Ingoldsby's) Later the 18th or Royal Irish Regiment The Harp And Crown. The Lion of Nassau with motto 'Virtutis Namurcensis Praetium' The Enniskillen Regiment or Whetham's Later the 27th (Enniskillen/?Inniskilling) Regiment The Castle of Enniskillen The degree of involvment in the campaigns of the WOSS was varied. |
Gallocelt | 03 Apr 2021 7:52 a.m. PST |
Hi Scotty66, For various reasons I am now committed to represent the Scots Fusiliers in my 15mm WSS British army. I have the proper figures already purchased, I believe. I have Minifigs, Dixon, and Essex figures that are sporting the fusilier cap. I understand that earlier in the war the regiment had red facings and grey breeches (also yellow stockings). According to kronoskaf.com, the officers wore fine beaver tricornes and carried half-pikes or spontoons. The regiment participated in most of the major engagements in Flanders theater. Cheers!
Gallo |
Gallocelt | 03 Apr 2021 8:08 a.m. PST |
Thanks 42flanker, Your comments have been copied (from 18th Century Discussion Message Board) to "War of the Spanish Succession Message Board." Your post was very relevant, and in truth, I hadn't even considered the regimental standards. Flags can certainly add a great deal of color to units. It occurred to me that certain British units could be used for different regiments providing they have similar uniforms (facing color, etc.) at 15mm scale the differences might mostly be the standards. I could simply make two standards, one to be used when the unit would represent one regiment, the other standard for the next. I have a feeling many modelers in 15mm scale do this. Cheers!
Gallo |
42flanker | 04 Apr 2021 10:57 a.m. PST |
Gallo- The Scots or North British Fuzileers, 'Royal' from 1713, when first formed in 1678 by Col. Charles Lord Erskine, Earl of Mar, reputedly acquired the nickname 'The Earl of Mar's Greybreeks' after their grey nether garments. How long that distinct element of uniform lasted I am not sure, but probably notas long as 20-odd years and I suspect not after they were taken onto the English Establishment in 1688. They bore a large thistle within the Circle of St Andrew as their Ancient Badge and I believe it was on th fornt of their caps as well. I just realised I have no idea what colour their facings were before they became a royal regiment in 1713. I don't imagine you'll be too worried either way. STOP PRESS. O'Farrel's Fuzilieers 1691 Coats "red faced and lined wih the same colour" (See p 5. Cannon's 'Historical Record' below) Royal North British Fuzileer in cap as depicted in the 1742 Cloathing Book link |
Gallocelt | 04 Apr 2021 4:42 p.m. PST |
Hi 42flanker, From Kronoskaf.com: "Privates From 1678 to 1712, the regiment had a red uniform with red facings; grey breeches and stockings." link Osprey's "Marlborough's Army 1702-11" Has them similarly dressed but in yellow stockings. The fusilier cap is dark blue with yellow trim and thistle emblem. Sadly for me, i was unable to find a regiment similarly attired that fought in Spain. Cheers!
Gallo |
Gallocelt | 19 Apr 2021 10:59 a.m. PST |
So here's what I've come up with for British WSS infantry. I've chosen six units to be represented at this time. More will come later, I'm sure. 1. 1st Foot Guards 2. Scot's Fusiliers – Rowe's (21st Foot) 3. Pierce's (Irish Foot) 4. North & Grey's (10th Foot) 5. Derby's (16th Foot) 6. British Marines (to be determined later) Cheers!
Gallo |
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