DisasterWargamer | 24 Mar 2021 3:15 p.m. PST |
While I love seeing field packs and lots of equipment, I find that there are quite a few times it adds to the painting time. So curious Do you like a) lots of equipment detail – packs, blankets, side arms etc b) just enough equipment detail to allow for customizing c) just a rifle, pike or main weapon d) Something else |
nnascati | 24 Mar 2021 3:56 p.m. PST |
Since my gaming is almost entirely solo, I paint figures to a level that pleases me. My infrequent opponent, a son in law really does not know much about military history, so does not know what may be missing. |
79thPA | 24 Mar 2021 4:06 p.m. PST |
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robert piepenbrink | 24 Mar 2021 4:35 p.m. PST |
You know, it does vary a little with size and period. Massed battles with Napoleonic 5mm are not the same as Sf skirmishes with six castings a side. |
Bashytubits | 24 Mar 2021 4:56 p.m. PST |
Less is more, since I am doing battles the troops do not like to run around with all their camping gear on. More bullets, less frying pans. |
Escapee | 24 Mar 2021 5:15 p.m. PST |
Not a lot of detail – there's a war on! I do not like to paint troops in parade dress for Naps and ACW since I game with them and that's not how they look in battle. My 6mm do have some detail, a little more for 15mm. I probably fall in the middle. But no fancy gear if I can help it. |
jurgenation | 24 Mar 2021 5:21 p.m. PST |
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von Schwartz ver 2 | 24 Mar 2021 5:31 p.m. PST |
With Tortorella on this topic, since my guys are going into battle, they would have shed their packs before heading off into line. |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 24 Mar 2021 6:10 p.m. PST |
I guess I'm in category b). |
etotheipi | 24 Mar 2021 6:34 p.m. PST |
For me, the miniatures are to be evocative more than strictly representative. That said, they are going into battle when they are on the table. Tactical gear is tactical gear. Well kitted out miniatures indicate a well-prepared and flexible force. Field packs and logistics gear indicate an expeditionary force. Of course, the extreme combination of flexible, well prepared, and expeditionary force would be SOF. To evoke this feeling, buck nekkid with a knife in their teeth works! ;) |
Yesthatphil | 24 Mar 2021 7:15 p.m. PST |
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jwebster | 24 Mar 2021 8:22 p.m. PST |
(b) some equipment, but not so much that it obscures the uniform John |
Cerdic | 24 Mar 2021 11:40 p.m. PST |
Depends on the period. Napoleonic troops usually kept their packs on in battle, so that is how I like my figures. Reading letters, diaries, and memoirs, you occasionally come across a mention of an order to leave packs behind. The context is nearly always that this is so unusual that it deserves mentioning! Then, of course, there are the descriptions of troops running away and discarding their packs as they go. If they weren't wearing their packs, they wouldn't be able to drop them! So yes, pack on for me… |
SaveGordon | 25 Mar 2021 12:58 a.m. PST |
(b) for me, if I am painting large armies/units. I have some splendid Minden 7YW miniatures, with every piece of equipment beautifully sculpted. In the same armies I have some RSM miniatures, also beautifully proportioned but very simply detailed, with just one cross belt and bayonet for some. The RSM's are therefore much faster to paint, but they both perform equally well, or equally badly, on the table. Each has it's merits, for faster painting, simpler figures, for spectacle and perhaps accuracy then the figures with more equipment. It depends on your own priorities. Now for small skirmish groups (a) for me, with lots of interesting detail. |
Herkybird | 25 Mar 2021 1:08 a.m. PST |
Less is more, since I am doing battles the troops do not like to run around with all their camping gear on. More bullets, less frying pans. I am with Bashytubits on this! I like the look of figures in fighting gear. They are easier to paint too! |
Martin Rapier | 25 Mar 2021 1:30 a.m. PST |
I prefer them to be wearing what they would in real life, so if that means packs on for Napoleonic, haversack and assault packs for WW2 Brits and Germans etc, then so be it. |
BillyNM | 25 Mar 2021 3:24 a.m. PST |
Less is better, if it's not there I don't have to paint it! Straps and buckles are the bane of my painting efforts. |
PzGeneral | 25 Mar 2021 4:38 a.m. PST |
C. Please Lord, let it be 'C' |
Frederick | 25 Mar 2021 6:05 a.m. PST |
I would say b) I can see why it would be mentioned in the Napoleonic Wars – leaving your pack behind behind meant you were probably not going to see it again In the ACW troops often left their packs behind with a guard but they didn't like it – since more often than not they weren't there when they went back! |
John the Greater | 25 Mar 2021 7:04 a.m. PST |
I would say depends on the scale should be a possible response. I might put a lot of effort for a 28mm and enough to get just the idea for 15mm. |
Garand | 25 Mar 2021 9:15 a.m. PST |
All the gear they would appropriately have when going into combat, especially distinctive gear. I recall buying a bunch of WWII Germans…who did not have any breadbags! This is a distinctive bit of kit for Germans & its absence detracted from the figures. Damon. |
Uesugi Kenshin | 25 Mar 2021 9:17 a.m. PST |
Napoleonic to Franco-Prussian I don't mind. From WW1 and later I prefer no packs. |
Zeelow | 25 Mar 2021 1:26 p.m. PST |
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14Bore | 25 Mar 2021 2:54 p.m. PST |
As Cerdic says how the Napoleonic era wore thats what I want. That also includes losing some on my Landwehr |
Jcfrog | 25 Mar 2021 3:42 p.m. PST |
Ambivalent: if you don't have many variant it looks odd to have for ex. Many with exactly the same stuff at the same angle. Bit the same as holes in trousers. |
Sgt Slag | 25 Mar 2021 8:30 p.m. PST |
C. The less, the better. If I can't see it on the tabletop, from 3-5 feet, it doesn't need to be there, and I likely will not paint it, if it is. Cheers! |
John the OFM | 25 Mar 2021 9:24 p.m. PST |
I would like my soldiers to go into battle having left all the superfluous stuff behind. |
Parzival | 26 Mar 2021 6:31 a.m. PST |
10mm scale is my scale— the less superfluous detail, the better. "C" seems to be phrased a little starkly, but it fits. I want surfaces for spot colors, and very few details to "pick out". It's supposed to be a mass of troops at arm's length or more— distinguishable for what they are as a unit, not so their grannies can recognize ‘em by name! |
Wargamer Blue | 28 Mar 2021 4:18 a.m. PST |
C. I want fighting men who dropped their packs before they went into action. |
The Tyn Man | 28 Mar 2021 7:06 a.m. PST |
This much….
These are AB figs. |