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Tango0123 Feb 2021 8:41 p.m. PST

"The "Black Hawk Down" episode and the piracy depicted in the film "Captain Phillips" continue to shape the American image of Somalia. For years, such perceptions have been unfair. Between 2010 and 2014, there were more than 350 pirate attacks or attempted attacks; over the next five years, there were eight; most piracy today occurs in the Gulf of Guinea, where 90 percent of kidnappings at sea now occur. Garowe, the capital of the Puntland state that I had the opportunity to visit last month, is secure. Business flourishes. Construction is constant. Locals and visitors both walk around the city or take advantage of its coffee shops and restaurants without security. Under the presidency of Sheikh Ahmed Madobe, Kismayo, the commercial capital of the Jubaland state, is also reportedly booming, even if its countryside is less secure than Puntland's.

The national capital Mogadishu, however, remains a mess. Somalis, of course, bear ultimate responsibility for Mogadishu's insecurity and decline, but much blame also rests on the international community and the tendency both in Washington and at the United Nations to confuse money spent with effectiveness. Since 1991, the international community has invested more than $50 USD billion in Somalia. Most of that money was wasted. This should never have been a surprise John Drysdale, who spent much of his career in Somalia, was fluent in Somali, advised several Somali prime ministers, warned in his history of the region, "Opportunism, being the ancient key to Somali survival in savannah conditions, could be readily turned by recent generations of urban dweller to the exploitation of alien moneybags." The theory was reality. Transparency International has consistently ranked Somalia to be the world's most corrupt country. While U.S. Ambassador Donald Yamamoto and James Swan, a former U.S. diplomat who now heads up the local UN mission, have lobbied both for aid and debt relief in order to build patronage for and empower the central government, the problem is that such a strategy has never worked in Somalia. Mohamed Abdullahi Farmaajo, whom Yamamoto and Swan have extra-constitutionally sought to empower, has used the resources provided to him to punish political competitors rather than fight terrorists or build the country…"
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Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Feb 2021 9:16 p.m. PST

Once again, at the expense of being DH'ed, I am going to wisely keep my mouth shut about Somalia.

Striker24 Feb 2021 1:58 a.m. PST

I didn't know it ended. At least I have a lot of minis for it.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse24 Feb 2021 8:25 a.m. PST

It's like A'stan … they will always find reasons to kill each other. Why bother to try stopping them ? In either failed state …

Irish Marine24 Feb 2021 9:05 a.m. PST

The place is a crap hole, I spent over 4 months there, they are too tribal to live peacefully with each other, and it's easier to kill and destroy then build.

Oddball24 Feb 2021 9:09 a.m. PST

I thought they were ALREADY in a civil war.

I mean did any of the fighting from the 1992/3 era ever end?

More tribalism from a (sounds like third but references bodily byproduct) world country.

At least the Chinese and US can sell them weapons, if you are looking for the silver lining.

Waco Joe24 Feb 2021 10:10 a.m. PST

To paraphrase The Lion in Winter:

"Of course he has a gun, he always has a gun, we all have guns! It's 2021 and we're all barbarians!"

Tango0124 Feb 2021 12:19 p.m. PST

(smile)


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Choctaw24 Feb 2021 12:26 p.m. PST

You mean they will actually be able to tell a difference?

HMS Exeter24 Feb 2021 2:47 p.m. PST

@Waco Joe

They always used to show that flick around Christmas. I dont remember Peter O'Toole ever saying that???

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse25 Feb 2021 10:44 a.m. PST

Think he was paraphrasing ?

Thresher0101 Mar 2021 1:01 p.m. PST

Is it Monday again?

Africa is a hot mess, and has been for a very, very long time.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse01 Mar 2021 5:32 p.m. PST

With no end in sight …

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