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Col Durnford23 Feb 2021 11:17 a.m. PST

Outrageous price and unbelievable shipping.


Frederick Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2021 11:33 a.m. PST

Long answer short, no they are not

Col Durnford23 Feb 2021 11:44 a.m. PST

Will I heard postage was going up, but over $70 USD to send a pamphlet from England?

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Feb 2021 12:12 p.m. PST

Tommy be trippin'!

Who on God's Green Earth thinks ANYTHING published in 1971 is worth that price!?!?!?!?

I have the FIRST Edition still in my collection (the one for sale is much later) and I'll gladly part with it for rather less.

There have been other examples of outrageous prices for old titles, but this one takes the cake.


JeffGrein23 Feb 2021 12:13 p.m. PST

I have seen this over the last year. Any rules set from Guidon games and especially any with Gygax as the rules writer are going for large sums of money. I think people are starting to appreciate how rare some of these are and are interested in anything with those two names on it. Sets of Chainmail rules are starting to go for large sums of money especially the Guidon games 1st and 2nd editions.

JeffGrein23 Feb 2021 12:14 p.m. PST


How much do you want for your earlier copy?


DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2021 12:18 p.m. PST

Because of the Gygax name – people ask ridiculous amounts of money for most of the Guidon rule sets

JeffGrein23 Feb 2021 12:23 p.m. PST


If you are looking to sell I would be interested in rules from Guidon games and especially ones with Gygax as the writer.

PM me


Personal logo PaulCollins Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2021 12:31 p.m. PST

Now I am going to have to go through the closet to find my copy.

Wackmole923 Feb 2021 12:44 p.m. PST

Asking Price and selling price are two different things. 1970's era gaming item have very low print run and So Can make good money, So some shot the moon on price.

If you have early wargaming stuff with connections to D&D and Gary Gygax. Either make sure your family know its value or sell it now and enjoy.

Col Durnford23 Feb 2021 12:49 p.m. PST

Yes, I've been watching Hardtack prices for the last several months. Most posting started in the $900 USD range. The last one I watched sold for just over $250. USD

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2021 4:17 p.m. PST

That is just insane! I admittedly do collect rules to a degree, but rules that I may at some point use. To pay that kind of money for a 50:year old set of rules is nuts. Some folks just have too much m9net.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2021 5:30 p.m. PST

"Some folks just have too much money."

Very true! And a mania for collecting is one of the best ways of correcting that. The man with too much money is happy to have purchased old rules for $250 USD--and someone else can go out and buy a small army for something he bought for $1 USD in a flea market decades ago.

I like collectors.

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Feb 2021 12:24 p.m. PST

Just to add a bit of closure to this, I just sold my 1st Edition copy to JeffGrein for his offered price of $40.00 USD, plus postage.

Rather than asking for a price, I let him offer what seemed fair to him, and it seemed fair to me, so there!


John the OFM01 Mar 2021 12:00 p.m. PST

I miss the old semi regular "Latest eBay Outrage!" threads here on TMP.
There is a huge difference between what one is asking on eBay and what someone is willing to pay.
The last time I tried to sell something on eBay, I could get it automatically relisted at no charge. Something can go on indefinitely being listed and not sold. In fact, the seller doesn't even get charged until it sells.

So, save your outrage until someone actually pays that silly price. And if someone does, why is it your problem? It's not your money that's being spent.

Baranovich04 Mar 2021 11:53 a.m. PST

Heya folks,

There was a time when I would see an item like that on Ebay and join the outrage machine.

But I've developed a more balanced attitude towards it more recently.

I think John the OFM hit the nail on the head. Anybody can put any price they want on something, it doesn't mean it's going to sell for that price. I could put a generic, ceramic Walmart-purchased $3.00 USD broken coffee cup on Ebay for $1,000 USD, but that doesn't mean very much.

As far as the price of these particular rules, well the price is way out of bounds, but on the other hand I understand the idea of nostalgia and collectibles.

I bought copies of the early editions of D & D and the old hardcover books, and ended up spending a couple hundred dollars. I also bought some copies of early issues of White Dwarf and Dragon Magazine.

I got them for no other purpose really than for nostalgia's sake and to display them. I may play D & D again at some point but when who knows.

I can understand the appeal of owning something that has a connection to Gary Gygax, it's kind of cool that he had his hand in historical rules before D & D.

To each his own!

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