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Irish Marine Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2021 7:29 a.m. PST

I'm thinking of using 28mm Mongrel Israelis from Badger games as South Africans does anyone think this will work?

Oddball21 Feb 2021 8:29 a.m. PST

I don't think it will work.

Just too different, but if you are looking for South African troops, circa 1970-80's here is an idea.

Vietnam era Australians.

Same type of soft bush hat, SLR rifles, web gear same or very close.

There are extensive lines of Australians available.

Assault Group

Empress Miniatures -

Butler's Printed Models has released the Ratel IFV

For Centurion tank there are 2 very good options:

Empress Miniatures (from Age of Glory in US)


Blitzkrieg Miniatures (from Sherwood Miniatures in US)

I went with the Blitzkrieg version.

Both companies make top of the line products, just a personal choice as I think the Blitzkrieg a bit better match for the 1/56 vehicles I use.

You might have guessed I'm currently assembling a SA force for the 1980's.

Where do I find figures that I can use as Cubans?

Ah, there you can use Mongrel Miniatures from their Syrian/Soviet lines.




the above companies and several others make Soviet era vehicles and AFV's to equip your commie forces.

Col Durnford Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2021 10:40 a.m. PST

Figure scale is always an issue with me.

Who will you use for your terrs? My collection for Rhodesia and Portuguese in Africa are from the excellent range from Eureka.
Two different packs in ZANLA figures provide a great base for insurgent forces. I only purchased RLI, RAR, and a few Portuguese.
I also added a few packs of the Aden emergency (British soft hats and FN).

I would not suggest their Australia (Vietnam) range since they are true 25mm and much smaller. The Australias I have for Vietnam are mainly TAG and Baker Company. I would also not suggest them since the are heroic 28mm and look way to large.

Irish Marine Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2021 11:46 a.m. PST

I went and found my South African Armed Forces book and the 1980's has the SADF looking a lot like the Israelis. SADF carried the R-4 which is a Galil, and Mongrel makes Israelis in soft covers. I will have to look over all of this, thanks for your input.

Col Durnford Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2021 1:29 p.m. PST

I really love the Mongrel miniatures and working with Badger is great. I only did a quick scan and the rifle does look close enough. I believe Israel was one of their trading partners. I have a Mongrel VDV platoon and they are a touch larger then the Eureka line. There was another line that Badger carries (Under Fire Miniatures) that included some Rhodesia sas and such. Those figures were much larger then the Mongrel line.

Irish Marine Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2021 2:50 p.m. PST

The Bush Wars are on my too do list, it's just getting the dudes I game with interested.

Col Durnford Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2021 3:52 p.m. PST

Several turns ago, I started collecting and painting Eureka figures for the Rhodesia bush war. Everything was table ready by 2018. At the start of the late difficulties, I ordered up One Hour Skirmish. I ran uncounted Fire Force missions modifying the rules as I went. They were great games with limited figures on the table. I started with 3 sticks of RLI (12 figures) against 5 – 5 figures ZANLA fireteams and 3 – 2 man RPG teams (31 figures). Later actions had more ZANLA troops and a few RAR sticks.

The main modification we customizing the decks to reflect troop quality.

Irish Marine Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2021 4:05 p.m. PST

I'm going to use Ambush Alley's Force on Force rules, which I enjoy.

Col Durnford Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2021 6:28 p.m. PST

I hope you have a copy of FonF Bush Wars. If not, get one.

My use of custom decks for troop quality is a direct steal of their using different dice for troop quality. It really allows a small number of better troops to run rings around ZANLA. In most actions 1 or 2 RLI casualties was considered a great victory and in only one action did they manage to wipeout an entire RAR stick.

Irish Marine Supporting Member of TMP22 Feb 2021 6:23 a.m. PST

Yes, I bought my copy when it came out years ago. I think there only two I don't have, the Vietnam and Somalia copies.

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