Marulaz1 | 20 Feb 2021 8:20 a.m. PST |
It has been my impression that Russian infantry in the Crimean war fought habitually in column. Is that correct? And, I was wondering if any TMP posters could recommend any books on Crimean war battles, the more tactical detail the better. I just finished Hell Riders and really enjoyed that. Thanks in advance to any one who cares to comment. John |
JimDuncanUK | 20 Feb 2021 9:58 a.m. PST |
That is my understanding too. I don't have any suitable books to hand. |
Extra Crispy | 20 Feb 2021 10:50 a.m. PST |
What most of us think of with the Crimean War is just the Russia-Britain-France theater. So that really only gives you three battles: Alma, Balaclava and Inkerman. Then there is the siege of Sevastapol. I quite enjoyed Hugh Small's book on the war. I have read very little about the battles on the other fronts. |
bobspruster | 20 Feb 2021 11:05 a.m. PST |
My understanding is that, yes, Russian doctrine at the time called for columnar infantry tactics. "The Crimean War" by Orlando Figes is an excellent read. |
Frederick | 20 Feb 2021 12:57 p.m. PST |
I am pretty certain that Russian infantry fought in column While most people concentrate on the Crimean theatre, the war was also waged along the Danube, in the Caucasus and naval action in the Baltic – seriously undergamed in my view! |
Marulaz1 | 20 Feb 2021 1:44 p.m. PST |
Thank you very much everyone! I will try to get my hands on the books by Figes and Small. Maybe for once my impression was correct. John |
BillyNM | 20 Feb 2021 2:52 p.m. PST |
Don't forget the battles of Little Inkerman and the Tchernaya in the Crimea. The former is often called a skirmish but the Russians committed 6,000 troops! |
ChrisBBB2 | 20 Feb 2021 5:15 p.m. PST |
For Kurudere, the battle that lost the Turks the campaign in the Caucasus, I recommend Allen & Muratoff: link This makes a fun wargame – now available on Tabletop Simulator! link Chris Bloody Big BATTLES! BBBBlog: bloodybigbattles.blogspot.com |
Marulaz1 | 20 Feb 2021 6:17 p.m. PST |
BillyNM & ChrisBBB. Thank you very much! John |
Cuprum2 | 20 Feb 2021 10:20 p.m. PST |
An interesting scenario could be the sea assault on Petropavlovsk in Kamchatka (Pacific theater of military operations): link |
Martin Rapier | 21 Feb 2021 2:18 a.m. PST |
Yes, the Russians fought in column (but of course, Napoleonic style attack columns, so actually thick lines…). So did the French, and the Ottomans The British were a bit unusual in insisting on deploying in thin lines. |
ChrisBBB2 | 21 Feb 2021 2:35 a.m. PST |
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Marulaz1 | 21 Feb 2021 6:21 p.m. PST |
Well, you guys have given me several books to search out. The one on the Hungarian revolution looks interesting too. And it appears the Russians did habitually fight in columns. Thank you all very much! My local librarian already considers me a pest, I'm sure. Maybe I should recommend him for employee of the month. John |
ChrisBBB2 | 22 Feb 2021 5:10 a.m. PST |
Cheers, John. Here's a freebie for you and you won't need to bother your librarian: Atwell Lake, 'Narrative of the defence of Kars'. This gives you an overview of the whole Caucasus campaign. link As I've mentioned on TMP before, I used to be a Crimea sceptic. I thought there were too few battles to be bothered with, and those not very interesting: the Alma a dull frontal assault, Balaclava a tiny skirmish, Inkerman just a scuffle in the fog. But having had to create a Crimea mini-campaign for the "Bloody Big European Battles!" campaign volume for BBB, I found these to be some of the most exciting games we've had. The asymmetry of forces helps. So I encourage you to learn more about the Crimean War, and I wish you good gaming from it! Chris Bloody Big BATTLES! groups.io/g/bloodybigbattles BBBBlog: bloodybigbattles.blogspot.com BBB on FB: link Hungary 1848: link |
Marulaz1 | 22 Feb 2021 9:19 a.m. PST |
ChrisBBB2. I appreciate all this very much. I am now looking forward to some interesting reading! Thank you! John |