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Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2021 3:45 a.m. PST

I recently purchased the second volume of the excellent Jouineu and Mongin book on French line infantry. It's in French but my school boy instruction is adequate for it. Highly rocommended.

However, on the cover there are three illustrations of grenadiers.


The two figures to the right are easily identified, but who is the figure on the left? I cannot find him in the book. He looks like something from the early 1820s.

Does anyone have an idea?

GurKhan21 Jan 2021 4:06 a.m. PST

The 1806 white uniform?

Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2021 4:54 a.m. PST

But the white uniform coat had lapels, IIRC. Could it be the waistcoat worn alone, as was sometimes done in hot climate?

Prince of Essling21 Jan 2021 4:59 a.m. PST

Departmental legions 1815 – 1820



Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2021 6:05 a.m. PST

It is not the 1806 uniform as the cut is all wrong. It is not a waistcoat as you can see there are coat tails. I do not think it is the uniform of the Departmental Legions as the jacket is single-breasted i.e no lapels. It looks like a white version of the returned blue uniform of the 1820s. I wonder if it was a form of 'transitional' uniform?

Personal logo Dye4minis Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2021 8:53 a.m. PST

Sometimes a description of cover illustrations can be found within the first 5 pages (or so) inside the immediate cover. The answer might be found there?

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2021 11:55 a.m. PST

Well he has a white cockade on his Shako, so clearly Royalist and likely Second Restoration. (The book title tells us this is not a Napoleonic pre Hundred Days outfit after all and the shako plate is hardly Bonapartist.)

SHaT198421 Jan 2021 2:03 p.m. PST

Take it away… yuk!

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2021 2:46 p.m. PST

Dye, I had another look through the book; still nothing.

Deadhead, good point, definitely a Royalist. Also, perhaps I should already have said, the cap badge says'11'. Is that a clue?

gisbygeo21 Jan 2021 3:23 p.m. PST

The artist is on Facebook. Ask him.

Wargamorium22 Jan 2021 7:02 a.m. PST

If you do ask the author, please let us know what he says.

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2021 7:26 a.m. PST

I will give it a go.

Oliver Schmidt22 Jan 2021 11:42 a.m. PST

The white uniform is probably a departemental legion from 1816, yellow distinctions for nos. 11-20. As the single line of buttons doesn't fit with the uniform coat shown here (turnbacks), maybe a confusion with the waistcoat ?

In 1820 the denomination of regiment and blue uniforms were reintroduced. 1829 red trousers for the line infantry were introduced.

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