John the OFM | 20 Jan 2021 12:03 p.m. PST |
Or, 2nd Trenton. I have the figures. I have a 9x5 table. It looks like a challenging battle for the scenario designer. It would probably make sense to divide the action into two parts. 1. Cornwallis is marching on Trenton. Hand, replacing the cowardly drunk French mercenary (the term correctly used here) Fermoy, conducted a very successful skirmish delaying action. This is one of the very few times you had Yankees "hiding behind trees". Depending on your rules and table size, give Cornwallis… 12? turns to get to Trenton. That decides a minor victory condition, which influences… 2. The actual battle in Trenton. Had Cornwallis arrived earlier, he may have had enough time before sunset to force the bridge, and so on. 3. On to Princeton! By the way, Glover's Marbleheaders can't be there. They were on the way home to get back to privateering. (Did they have passes to get through the British? "We ain't in the army no more! Let us pass!") Anyway, Glover showed up at Saratoga. Battle 1 would be a very interesting and different AWI battle. A lot of thought should go into it to adapt it to your favorite rules. Do they allow Hand's tactics to work? If skirmishes are driven back, how long does it take them to return? |
Berzerker73 | 20 Jan 2021 12:25 p.m. PST |
I have not however a recent issue of Wargames Soldiers and Strategy #110 had a nice write up on gaming the battle. The scenario suggests doing the battle at brigade/battalion level. |
DisasterWargamer | 20 Jan 2021 1:07 p.m. PST |
Land of the Free has it included in their scenarios – they set it up as a meeting engagement |
John the OFM | 20 Jan 2021 1:16 p.m. PST |
I'm specifically interested in Hand's delaying action. The battle in the town is rather straightforward. |
John the OFM | 20 Jan 2021 1:18 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the heads up on WSS, by the way. |
ColCampbell | 20 Jan 2021 2:36 p.m. PST |
I have many years ago -- link I don't recall exactly how it ended, but the British did attack as soon as they arrived so Washington was not able to get away in the night and head towards Princeton. Jim |
epturner | 21 Jan 2021 3:01 p.m. PST |
John; A number of years ago, when Historicon was at the Valley Forge Convention Center, our local group ran several local AWI battles. One did Assinpink Creek, which was a lot of fun. I ran Crooked Billet. I think someone else ran Paoli. Another ran the flank attack at Brandywine. Eric |
doc mcb | 21 Jan 2021 3:10 p.m. PST |
This was one of the many occasions in which the British really needed cavalry. |
ezza123 | 22 Jan 2021 8:04 a.m. PST |
The WSS article is quite interesting, although I have not yet gamed this battle. However, if interested, I have started putting together a rough scenario for the Patriots & Loyalists rules that could likely be adapted to other rule sets. Ezza |
AICUSV | 23 Jan 2021 8:28 p.m. PST |
epturner – Eric. I'm currently solo gaming (play one or two moves a night) Crooked Billet. I would be interested in anything on your scenario that you would be willing to share. I like to compare it to what I've come with. I actually live on a part of the field. I've designed mine to played using Sharp Practice 2. John – the whole Trenton/Princeton campaign would make for an interesting and fun miniatures campaign. |
Old Contemptible | 24 Jan 2021 3:54 a.m. PST |
Here is my 2nd Trenton game. It includes the delaying tactics of Edward Hand and Charles Scott. There is also some fighting in Trenton itself and the British attempt to cross the creek. If you click the link below the banner it will have the game description and some of the photos have a description. link |
dantheman | 24 Jan 2021 7:07 a.m. PST |
If you do the delaying action, what rules would you use? I would see this as a running skirmish game. I have seen 2nd Trenton played before and was in one game. They wee all focused on when the British entered Trenton and headed to the bridge. Monmouth is similar. The afternoon action is normally gained. The morning actions would make good skirmish scenarios. |
WillBGoode | 24 Jan 2021 10:15 a.m. PST |
Thank you for posting the suggestion about the article in WWS. I went out and downloaded it and it's very informative. Thank you! Both battles are high on my to do list. Just need a bigger table for the second and more buildings for both. Perhaps this is the year I will finally get them done. I have finished Princeton so Trenton (1 and 2) should not be far behind. Old Contemptible, love going to your page for inspiration and for eye candy. Your tables and battles are some of the very best I have seen. If anyone asks why we play with toy soldiers instead of cardboard counters your pages answer it. Thank you for all you do. Bravo! |
Old Contemptible | 24 Jan 2021 2:45 p.m. PST |
Thank you for the kind words. The fight in the woods by Scott and Hands would make a really good skirmish game. Before the pandemic our club had been using "Rebels and Patriots". I may give it a go with those rules. link |
42flanker | 02 Feb 2021 8:29 p.m. PST |
Old Conemptible. Immaculate. You can almost see the frozen breath. And VML the Highlanders in their blue winter troosers… |
Virginia Tory | 03 Feb 2021 12:28 p.m. PST |
>Another ran the flank attack at Brandywine. Historygamer and I have run that one several times, using British Grenadier. Did a combined game one year, including Knyphausen's attack. |