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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2021 8:46 p.m. PST

"A cafe in Moscow was forced to close a day after it opened following an outcry over its provocative Josef Stalin-themed branding, the shop's owner said.

The Stalin Doner shop featured a portrait of the controversial Communist leader above its front door. Inside, a man dressed in the Stalin-era security service uniform served customers meat wraps named after Soviet leaders.

"We fully opened the day before yesterday and served around 200 customers," shop owner Stanislav Voltman said…"


From here


Brian Smaller12 Jan 2021 9:58 p.m. PST

Ha! They just need to do what that restaurant in Mumbai did renamed itself from Hitler's Cross to Cross Cafe. There was that Adolf Hitler bar in Korea as well. I think they renamed themselves as well to something like Bdolf Bitler Bar. They are pretty common in Asia.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2021 9:59 p.m. PST

The owner doesn't mind. He is already planning to open Ivan the Terrible Pizza, Pol Pot Noodle Shop, and Vlad the Impaler Corndog Stand.

Dn Jackson12 Jan 2021 10:18 p.m. PST

I thought Vlad would be better hawking kebabs.

Brian Smaller12 Jan 2021 10:43 p.m. PST

thought Vlad would be better hawking kebabs.

Vlad's Stake House.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2021 11:55 p.m. PST

Those are pretty creative.

If anyone opens a Lenin-ade (Copyright 2021) stand, I want 10% of the gross sales/revenue right off the top, for the idea (none of that monkeying with the books for me, to make it look like they're not making a huge profit from my idea).

Franchises in the Pacific Northwest will be especially welcomed I suspect, since his statue there is still standing, last I'd heard, while so many others around the country have been toppled, or scuttled away to warehouses in the dark of night without consulting the public.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian13 Jan 2021 3:33 a.m. PST

From Radio New Zealand

TGerritsen Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2021 4:37 a.m. PST

Sorry Thresher, someone already beat you to it. link

Oddball13 Jan 2021 5:23 a.m. PST

Should have opened in Cambridge, MA.

I'm sure it would have been a big hit.

USAFpilot13 Jan 2021 6:03 a.m. PST

Even the Russians see what a bad person Stalin was. Why are some college students in America so in love with him? And what's with all the Che T-shirts young people wear?

Dn Jackson13 Jan 2021 7:18 a.m. PST

"Vlad's Stake House" LOL

Dn Jackson13 Jan 2021 7:18 a.m. PST

"Even the Russians see what a bad person Stalin was. Why are some college students in America so in love with him? And what's with all the Che T-shirts young people wear?"

Ignorance is bliss.

mad monkey 113 Jan 2021 8:05 a.m. PST

Che's Chili House, feel the heat of the Revolution!

hindsTMP Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2021 10:01 a.m. PST


"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Sloppy thinking, but not uncommon.


TheNorthernFront13 Jan 2021 10:56 a.m. PST

At least the Russians still understand the horrors of communism.

Zephyr113 Jan 2021 2:36 p.m. PST

"And what's with all the Che T-shirts young people wear?"

They are enamored of the beret, as it has a hypnotizing effect upon prey. Mimes also wear berets. Coincidence? Conspiracy? Who can tell… ;-)

USAFpilot13 Jan 2021 2:39 p.m. PST

@hindsTPM, who is their perceived enemy? I honestly don't get it.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2021 8:28 p.m. PST

Damn commies must have hacked my brain before the thought bubbled to the surface.

I love their slogans on the bottle, and at the bottom of the ad for it too.

Thanks for the link, TG, as disheartening as it is……

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2021 8:46 p.m. PST



Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Jan 2021 3:26 a.m. PST

They are pretty common in Asia.

In Asia, there aren't a lot of people who grew up with parents and grandparents involved in the European theater of WWII. Their local history does not include the Nazis, and they get a cartoon version of the cartoon version we get when they cover WWII.

Also, the swastika was an artistic motif from North Africa to East Asia for millennia prior to WWII. In the west, by and large, the first we hear of the swastika is in the 1930's.

I have some friends who emigrated from Cambodia in the 70's with their parents. They have a different view of who the worst world leader was.

I've mentioned this before, but there was a study done to understand the rift between younger and older Americans of Cuban descent on normalization of relations with Cuba. It found out there wasn't a rift between older and younger. The rift was between different generations. The more generations removed you were from actually living under the Castro regime, the more tolerant you were of it. More generations removed tended to correlate with younger. But the generational difference was an extremely tight correlation and age was noisy.

La Fleche14 Jan 2021 3:40 a.m. PST

Bill wrote:

From Radio New Zealand

Known colloquially as "Red Radio" by right-leaning New Zealanders. No doubt staff were chewing their Little Red Books at t he smear.

Legion 414 Jan 2021 8:34 a.m. PST

Oddball, USAF & Dn +1 …

The more generations removed you were from actually living under the Castro regime, the more tolerant you were of it. More generations removed tended to correlate with younger.
Yes, as a sidebar. I was surprised to have even found this among US Vet's who served recently vs. older Vets. Things change between generations is generally the case.

And someone needs to tell them Che' is dead. And if they don't know the US Military helped.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse14 Jan 2021 1:00 p.m. PST

Che owed that photographer so much. He had very long hair, (plus that beret so perfectly pulled further forward than usual,) but it is well recorded that he hated that shaggy look. First opportunity, he had a very short back and sides. He was as thin as a rake, but piled it on as soon as he could. He was no pin up when he went to the UN in New York and by Oct 9th 1967 he was starving and looked awful. You never see T shirts of his passport photo used to enter Bolivia.

Poor guy. Almost everything he turned to he fouled up. The Cuban economy, Congolese revolution, Bolivian tin miners. One mess after another. Santa Clara campaign more due to Batista incompetence than anything else.

But he was an idealist. He sacrificed everything for his beliefs and could have lived a comfortable middle class life back in Argentina. He does not deserve to be a pin up for burger bars and big business dress wear. But anyone with asthma who forgets his medication and smokes cigars, while messing with the CIA and US Special Forces is asking for it.

Good photo though. I had that one on my wall, plus one of him on the post mortem table, with a Bolivian officer lifting his head, the pic cut from a magazine. Folk thought that was weird, but it was late 60s.

Legion 414 Jan 2021 3:29 p.m. PST

messing with the CIA and US Special Forces is asking for it.
Yep, just ask UBL, his son, Baghdadi, Suielmanei and Al Masary to name a few.

Oh wait you can't … they are all dead as the dinosaurs …

Hasta' la' Vista' baby !

von Schwartz ver 214 Jan 2021 4:02 p.m. PST

Staller for the win!!!

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