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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse11 Jan 2021 7:41 p.m. PST

"In a remarkable 11th hour decision, the Trump administration designated Cuba as a state sponsor of terror on Monday, reversing an Obama-era decision to remove the communist country from the list as part of its broader rapprochement between Washington and Havana.

The move, announced by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo comes just nine days before President-elect Joe Biden takes office. Bloomberg first reported the Cuba policy decision.

"With this action, we will once again hold Cuba's government accountable and send a clear message: the Castro regime must end its support for international terrorism and subversion of U.S. justice," Pompeo said in a statement…"
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Cuprum211 Jan 2021 9:23 p.m. PST

It's funny. What does the US judicial system have to do with a sovereign independent state? Is the USA ready to accept the decisions of the Cuban courts? I doubt it)))

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 11:25 p.m. PST

Good to hear, but about 4 years late.

nickinsomerset12 Jan 2021 2:41 a.m. PST

Dont worry, in 10 days time it will be reversed,

Tally Ho!

Legion 412 Jan 2021 9:21 a.m. PST

Thresher & nick +2 … The Cuban leadership is still not a friend or even "frienemy" of the US. And we see the "workers' paradise" as promised by Castro and his revolutionaries has not really worked out as the population thought.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse12 Jan 2021 11:01 a.m. PST

(smile)

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arealdeadone12 Jan 2021 1:36 p.m. PST

Amd how is Cuba a threat anymore to the US?!?

Great example of how logic and rationality no longer exist in US foreign policy.

USAFpilot12 Jan 2021 2:39 p.m. PST

You mean like the keen rationality of US foreign policy when we invaded Iraq post 9/11; even though Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Or when after having broke Iraq we announced that we were leaving and once we did ISIS overran much of the country. And then their is that masterpiece of foreign policy when we bombed the wealthiest nation in Africa, Libya, and turned it into a terrorist hell hole. Oh, our foreign policy has been screwed up for decades, all the way back to Vietnam at least; and is likely to get even worse going forward.

USAFpilot12 Jan 2021 2:54 p.m. PST

Oh, about Cuba; it's so great there that people are still fleeing that country.

Personal logo 15mm and 28mm Fanatik Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2021 3:53 p.m. PST

Amd how is Cuba a threat anymore to the US?!?

Being a threat is irrelevant. Cuba is no more a threat to the US than, say, Venezuela.

Cuba is a fixation of the outgoing POTUS because he vowed to undo the rapprochement achieved by his predecessor and also to woo the anti-Castro Cuban expats in Florida who backed him politically.

Legion 413 Jan 2021 9:44 a.m. PST

USAF +1 on both posts … as well as Fanatik … An example of Realpolitik, IMO. Again, many gray areas with few clean hands.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse13 Jan 2021 11:30 a.m. PST

I was in Cuba… living a couple of weeks with a local family… impossible to descrive… a real hell!….


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arealdeadone13 Jan 2021 2:37 p.m. PST

Legion it has nothing to do with Realpolitik. There are no rational guiding principles or national interest here. Cuba is an impoverished nothing state. Hammering them with sanctions makes no sense.

Personal logo 15mm and 28mm Fanatik Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2021 3:43 p.m. PST

The only reason the US is bullying Cuba is because it can, other than to please the Cuban expats in Florida who voted Republican last November.

Legion 413 Jan 2021 3:56 p.m. PST

Tango – that is the way I understood it.

Legion it has nothing to do with Realpolitik. There are no rational guiding principles or national interest here. Cuba is an impoverished nothing state. Hammering them with sanctions makes no sense.

Maybe you should email the State Dept. ? Who knows a year from now ? They may become the 53 State … Regardless there still a lot of old school hardliners that don't like the USA. So, they can continue to live in their own little "Paradise". I really have no reason to care about what happens in Cuba. They played the game with the USSR vs the USA, and lost. They choose poorly …

other than to please the Cuban expats in Florida who voted Republican last November.
That is the Realpolitik I'm referring to … That is the way the US Leaders, elected or otherwise does business. And it started a while back.

USAFpilot13 Jan 2021 4:11 p.m. PST

This is not a new policy. It just brings our Cuba policy back to the status quo of the last 50+ years of numerous US administrations. Nothing to see here.

Legion 413 Jan 2021 4:33 p.m. PST

Yep … thumbs up

arealdeadone13 Jan 2021 6:34 p.m. PST

The point is it is a stupid policy that serves no purpose except pander to a bunch of disgruntled migrants.

Given the way of the world might make more sense to normalise relations with Cuba instead of making them a potential ally for the Chinese or Russians.

Normalizing relations with Cuba was one of Obama's better foreign policy moments.

As for age of policy, what made sense in s
1959 probably doesn't apply in 2021.

USAFpilot14 Jan 2021 6:28 a.m. PST

Those "disgruntled migrants" are now loyal US citizens that have a right to have their voices heard. Many of them are still alive who experienced their land and property stolen by the communists and their lives uprooted.

The Russians are not "potential" allies with Cuba; they are in fact allies with Cuba and have always been since Castro and his communists took over.

Just because time has passed doesn't make the crimes committed by the communists less terrible. Normalization of relations can easily occur if the progenitors of the Castro regime throw out the failed policies of communism and welcome freedom and democracy.

Legion 414 Jan 2021 7:43 a.m. PST

+1 USAF …

Yes they are loyal legal Americans now. We owe Cuba and the Russians nothing really … Two of my friends in the ARMY were born in the US as their family had to flee Cuba.

But like I said, Cuba might be the 53d State after DC and PR. Within a year or two … 😎

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