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11 Jan 2021 6:00 p.m. PST
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Baranovich11 Jan 2021 2:41 p.m. PST

So I was able to order the latest issue of Wargames Illustrated from Mythicos store in New Jersey. It comes with a free promotional sprue of troops from Warlord Games new Epic Scale American Civil War for Black Powder.

I just got my hands on it a few minutes ago. I am loving what I'm seeing with these! They are indeed just a shade under typical 15mm, so the 13.5 description is pretty much on the money.

The multi-basing and single cast of an entire rank in my opinion is brilliant.

The plastic is a hard grey plastic that is identical to GW hard styrene or any hard styrene model.

The details of the models check off a lot of good boxes for me! For one, the soldiers were sculpted with the brass round eagle plates on their cartridge box shoulder belts as well as the brass oval US or CS belt plates.

Warlord games got the essentials of the basic soldiers' equipment right. There are unfortunately no knapsacks but a good number of soldiers do have blanket rolls. Plus it would be super easy to add additional blanket rolls or knapsacks with modeling putty.

In addition, you'll notice that none of the soldiers come with bayonets fixed. This is actually something I like, since when marching and fighting Civil War soldiers had their bayonets unfixed far more often than they had them fixed. The most common times bayonets would have been fixed would be when actually stacking muskets in camp or at a halt, or when doing actual bayonet drill. But when on the march or in a battle firing line they would be unfixed the vast majority of the time. So unfixed bayonets was a good decision for these in my opinion.

For 13.5mm these have really nifty, crisp details. You can clearly make out the facial details of each soldier and in general the details are crisp enough that there's no guessing when painting them.

Some have complained that the artillery pieces wheels have fewer spokes than actual Civil War cannons had. Meh, for me it's a minor thing, particularly in this scale!

In my opinion the single cast piece ranks of troops are an excellent candidate for Citadel Contrasts! I can see going down a line of these very quickly with a dark blue Contrast for the Union coats and then go down the line again with one of the light blue Contrasts for the Union trousers, etc.

For someone like me whose wargames room size is limited to a 4 x 6 table, this new system is IDEAL for getting into Civil War and be able to do decently-sized battles. 6mm is ok but for my tastes it's just too small to really inspire me visually. This scale satisfies the itch of massed ranks of soldiers with enough detail to actually pop on the tabletop.

JimDuncanUK11 Jan 2021 4:25 p.m. PST

Kallistra 12mm ACW Artillery are a good match for Warlord Games Epic ACW and the number of spokes on artillery wheels are more accurate.

Kallistra Command Packs are also a way of increasing your unit breakdowns. The Warlord offering only has one command base per 5 bases so if you need more command bases then Kallistra is a useful addition.

Baranovich11 Jan 2021 4:40 p.m. PST

Awesome, thanks for the tips Jim!

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 4:58 p.m. PST

LOL --- Old Glory did casting of single ranks on bases on our 10mm bases years ago.
It was brilliant years ago and still is.

Russ Dunaway

John the OFM11 Jan 2021 5:43 p.m. PST

+1 Russ, you shy modest old dog. grin

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 6:07 p.m. PST

HA,HA -- I have even taken some hammering over those strips from some corners?
Just like years ago when my 25mm ACW had separate heads that had to be glued on -- boy was there some screaming over that ????
Now many want plastic with multiple pieces.
I guess thats the price of being a Renaissance man !!
By the way -- As stated in other threads-- I love this WL product!!

Russ Dunaway

Prince Alberts Revenge11 Jan 2021 7:06 p.m. PST

I have huge amounts of the wonderful 10mm Old Glory ranges: ancients, ECW, Napoleonic and ACW. I love small scale figures in strips. Even though I have painted ACW in 10mm (aforementioned Old Glory), I pre-ordered this set as well. I'm not even a big ACW gaming enthusiast. Hopefully they expand to do other conflicts.

Rdfraf Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2021 7:15 a.m. PST

When I started to look for ACW I wanted them to look shoulder to shoulder. And in large number to look like a regiment. I found the 10mm Old Glory figures to be not only what I was looking for but with army card they were crazy cheap. I mounted them 2 strips to a base with a regiment of 10 bases for a 1000 figures per regiment! Looks awesome!

The only thing that threw me off were the cast on flags. I would have preferred no flags so I could have used paper flags, as painting 10mm Union flags looked impossible so instead I made my own decals to fit them and it works great!

Highly recommended set of miniatures with all the needed troop types.

jsmcc9112 Jan 2021 7:46 a.m. PST

Things do seem to come full circle Russ :) Now they are the greatest thing since sliced bread :)

John the OFM12 Jan 2021 10:47 a.m. PST

Russ, I for one love separate heads. Kings Mountain has an amazing variety. Ive plugged many into your AWI figures. There's nothing like a dashing pimp hat to give dash to the boring Connecticut Dragoons. grin Now they're the King's Loyal Generic Chasseurs.

I wish more manufacturers would follow suit. Hint hint.

Baranovich13 Jan 2021 3:37 p.m. PST

Not to put a damper on the self-congratulatory but totally justified Old Glory party that broke out in the middle of a review for a Warlord Games product, but I think these plastic 12mm strips have far better detail than Old Glory 10mms.

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Jan 2021 7:54 p.m. PST

I actually said that I love the warlords product and think it is a great product. I simply pointed out we had strips years ago and now someone is suggesting it is somehow revolutionary? As far as being better then OG-- all sculpted, molded, cast, packed,and shipped in the USA by USA hands !!
OH well --some people !!

Russ Dunaway

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