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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse11 Jan 2021 12:08 p.m. PST

"On Sept. 3, China held a military parade the 15th since its founding and the first to celebrate its victory over Japan in World War II. Highlighting Beijing's commitment to "preserving world peace," according to official pronouncements, this parade showcased China's most advanced military capabilities, including ballistic missiles, tanks, and fighter jets. Twelve thousand troops marched past Tiananmen Square in view of the assembled dignitaries, including 30 visiting heads of state. The parade was more than a display of raw power: It projected a narrative that placed China, especially the ruling Communist Party, at the center of the global anti-fascist and anti-imperialist struggle.

The parade also represented a shift of focus. It was the first military parade held on any day other than Oct. 1, the anniversary of the 1949 founding of the People's Republic of China. Past parades reflected the moment of triumph when the Chinese Communist Party defeated the Nationalists in a four-year civil war ending the "century of humiliation," which had begun in the 1840s when the British defeated China in the Opium Wars. The year 1949, in Chairman Mao Zedong's words, was when the Chinese people "stood up."

The new message, however, is that in the 1937-1945 war against Japan, China not only stood up, but stood tall among the world's great powers. China paid a hefty price for defeating a mighty enemy according to this new narrative and the world should be grateful for the selfless sacrifice it made in the process of taking its rightful place among leading nations. In President Xi Jinping's words, China undermined "strategic coordination between Japan's fascism and German fascism" and by doing so "significantly raised China's international position."…"


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SBminisguy11 Jan 2021 1:24 p.m. PST

ROFLMAO! Yeah, it's good to be da King! In reality it was the KMT that did most of the fighting against Japan, and the CCP spent as much time attacking the KMT as it did the Japanese. Yep. The KMT exhausted itself in war while the CCP hoarded the resources given to it to fight Japan, and when the war was over the CCP launched their attack on the KMT to grab control of the country. The CCP was literally an impediment to victory against Imperia Japan!

mjkerner11 Jan 2021 2:47 p.m. PST

Agree, SB, it's a hoot. But hey, Revisionism is all the rage amongst academia and others, so we can hardly expect the CCP to not embrace it as well.

Wolfhag11 Jan 2021 3:22 p.m. PST

China defeats Japanese Militaristic Fascism that killed millions of Chinese. China then implements Militaristic Communism that kills millions of Chinese and gives a victory parade on their victory over Japanese Fascism and everyone cheers except for the millions of dead.

China declares victory over German Fascism and its concentration camps. China then implements Communism that puts millions of people in concentration camps and gives a victory parade on their victory over German Fascism and everyone cheers except the people in the concentration/re-education camps.


Legion 411 Jan 2021 3:29 p.m. PST

Sounds about right Wolf …

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Jan 2021 4:55 p.m. PST

Courtesy of the Foreign Policy website

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse12 Jan 2021 11:06 a.m. PST



Augustus12 Jan 2021 5:02 p.m. PST

I swear this sounds like a Dr. Strangelove plot.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse13 Jan 2021 11:33 a.m. PST



uglyfatbloke13 Jan 2021 11:52 a.m. PST

Revisionism can be good – in fact we'd have no analytical historiography without it. There's a problem with people making stuff up to get their names in the papers and an even bigger problem with people who have decided what they know – regardless of any of that dodgy history stuff.

Nine pound round Supporting Member of TMP14 Jan 2021 7:06 a.m. PST

Somewhere, Joseph Stilwell and Barbara Tuchman are shaking their heads.

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