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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 11:15 a.m. PST

Can anyone recommend US non-regular artillery between 1775 and 1815--other than Jean Lafitte's people--which is immediately and obviously not regulars?

I don't need different cockades: I need gun carriage colors, coat colors or something very clearly distinctive about the cut of coat or headgear on a 25/28mm casting, so that anyone looking at the table can see that THOSE are regular artillery and THESE are--something else.

All part of my project to have armies where you can immediately see who's on which side, what sort of troops they are, and what sort of condition they're in without a lot of cards and markers.

Thanks.

doc mcb11 Jan 2021 11:48 a.m. PST

Old Glory Texas artillery are in civies and could go back to War of 1812 or even earlier.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 11:48 a.m. PST

Maybe French artillerists from a Napoleon in Egypt range?

RudyNelson11 Jan 2021 2:14 p.m. PST

The 1812 artillery in the Gulf Coast campaign against the Upper Creek tribes was militia or State controlled.
When American forces established supply depots at various settlements in their March from Tennessee, they often left at cannon at these sites. The were manned by the militia of that fort. Jackson's maneuver division had two light cannon attached to them. These were small on double trail caissons and manned by Tennessee State troops. There are good photos on the Horseshoe Bend historic park website.
The Georgia/Carolina contingent axis also had two light cannon which had been transferred to Georgia after the Revolution, they had been captured at Saratoga. These were mounted on naval gun , 4 wheel, trucks and hauled in wagons. They were manned by Georgia State troops and volunteers.

US regular artillery troops were in the region but assigned to the coastal forts n the Mobile area and New Orleans.

RudyNelson11 Jan 2021 2:26 p.m. PST

Tenn artillerymen wore frock coats with top hats. I think the coat was dark blue with red trim. Again some nice photos at the Horseshoe Bend website. The reenactors are park rangers and not an independent lot.
The Ga artillery men initial wore Tarleton caps as did the infantry but these did not last long in campaigning. Later crews wore a variety of hats with wide brim slouch hats being common. Carriage wood colors comments varies so they may have been repainted. Iron tubes on all were black.
The one cannon ball, 6pounder, that I examined from a dig at a Tenn camp site, was a black shade.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 2:27 p.m. PST

How flexible are you willing to be with accuracy? You could easily add/change a uniform detail for militia versus regulars. For example regulars have white pants, militia have tan.

The challenge with that kind of system, for me, is it becomes very hard to remember all that.

If it were me I'd go with flocking. Maybe something like this:

One white rock on the base = militia.
One gray rock on the base = high quality troops.
NO rock = regulars.

You can then add two gray rocks for elites or whatever. best thing is this applies across troop types – works with horse, foot and guns.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 2:27 p.m. PST

Some other ideas here:

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Dn Jackson11 Jan 2021 10:07 p.m. PST

I use red carriages for my American militia.

Brechtel198 Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2021 8:26 a.m. PST

The volunteer Maryland militia artillery was properly uniformed and equipped. It would be worth your while to look them up. There is a plate and text on them in Volume II of Military Uniforms in America.

historygamer Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2021 8:29 a.m. PST

AWI militia artillery? I am not aware of such units (other than the 1775 stuff around Boston), but anything is possible. Unless you are referring to state troops, which were not militia.

Brechtel198 Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2021 9:43 a.m. PST

But there were afterwards, which is what I was referring to. I do believe that they fought at North Point in the successful delaying action in the action that British General Ross was killed.

historygamer Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2021 9:59 a.m. PST

I'll defer to you on after the AWI. :-) It was a pretty broad period the OP put out there.

IronDuke596 Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2021 10:40 a.m. PST

From previous threads your focus appears to Bladensburg (Chesapeake Campaign including North Point) and New Orleans.

For Bladensburg militia artillery specifically the Franklin Artillery of Baltimore and the American Artillerists of Baltimore I used KD 1812 US053 militia artillery (in bicorns).

For the Georgetown and Washington militia Light Artillery I used KD 1812 US078 light artillery.

For New Orleans I have identified two militia artillery units the Company of Cannoniers-Bombardiers and Washington Artillery, which were likely made up of French and American volunteers, respectively. However, so far, I have found little information of their uniforms. The successor of the Company of Cannoniers-Bombardiers in 1825 wore the uniform of artillery of the French Old Guard. So, there is speculation that they wore the guard dress in 1814/15 as did their brothers in arms the Plauche Battalion. Ref: "A Most Warlike Appearance", p. 87.
As to the Washington Artillery my solution is based only on speculation until I find further evidence. They either wore the regulation militia artillery bicorns or they were in a quasi civilian/military dress as is estimated for their militia infantry brethren. Ibid, p. 86. I am leaning to the latter and to that end I have ordered Spanish civilian dressed artillery crew from Brigade Games BG-NSP043 BG-NSP043 Napoleonic Spanish Rebels/Guerrillas Artillery Crew Firing (6).

I hope that helps.

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