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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian11 Jan 2021 5:38 a.m. PST

On January 19, 1862, Union troops experienced their first significant Civil War victory during the Battle of Mill Springs in Kentucky. The battle, also known as the Battle of Logan's Cross-Roads (in Union terminology), and the Battle of Fishing Creek (in Confederate terminology), occurred in Pulaski and Wayne Counties near present-day Nancy, Kentucky. It resulted in Union troops breaking through the Confederate defensive line and opening access into Middle Tennessee…

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Bill N11 Jan 2021 6:41 a.m. PST

Why would Rich Mountain in West Virginia not count? July of 1861. There is also the primarily naval victory at Hatteras Island in August of 1861. Then there was Port Royal in the fall of 1861.

Personal logo Grelber Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 9:04 a.m. PST

It kind of depends on what you consider to be a "battle." Mill Springs is often passed over and the credit given to Grant's Forts Henry and Donelson campaign, a month later.
Mill Springs was a larger battle than Rich Mountain, with more troops engaged, the two sides more evenly balanced, and there were more casualties.
Hatteras Island and Port royal were largely battles between Confederate forts and Union ships.

Grelber
Kind of playing devil's advocate here

Personal logo John the Greater Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 9:16 a.m. PST

How about Carnifex Ferry? There were about 7,000 troops involved (both sides added together), which it a pretty good sized engagement for 1861.

IronDuke596 Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 9:52 a.m. PST

OMGoodness Bill you are violating your own edict.

Albeit redundant; from "the official fold 3 HQ"

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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 10:03 a.m. PST

Is there such a thing as an unsuccessful Civil War victory?

I may have to report this thread to the Bureau of Surplus Redundancy Department.

jdpintex11 Jan 2021 11:15 a.m. PST

1st Bull Run?

TNE230011 Jan 2021 1:29 p.m. PST

Bureau of Surplus Redundancy Department

thats
The Department of Redundancy Department

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 7:27 p.m. PST

I thought all victories were successful. I learn something new every day!

Bill N11 Jan 2021 9:15 p.m. PST

Was Carnifax Ferry really a Union victory. The Confederates did withdraw from their position but only after checking Union attacks and inflicting more casualties than they suffered.

Dn Jackson11 Jan 2021 10:15 p.m. PST

"Hello, Department of Redundancy Department. How may I help or assist you?"

Murvihill12 Jan 2021 4:57 a.m. PST

There's a name for an unsuccessful victory, from the Carthaginian wars. Freudian isn't it,,, darn, second thing that goes is the mind.

Personal logo John the Greater Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2021 8:21 a.m. PST

Bill N – Generally if someone holds the field they are considered the winner. Some victories are a bit uglier than others. (see Guilford Courthouse)

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