 Editor in Chief Bill   | 11 Jan 2021 6:38 a.m. PST |
On January 19, 1862, Union troops experienced their first significant Civil War victory during the Battle of Mill Springs in Kentucky. The battle, also known as the Battle of Logan's Cross-Roads (in Union terminology), and the Battle of Fishing Creek (in Confederate terminology), occurred in Pulaski and Wayne Counties near present-day Nancy, Kentucky. It resulted in Union troops breaking through the Confederate defensive line and opening access into Middle Tennessee… link |
| Bill N | 11 Jan 2021 7:41 a.m. PST |
Why would Rich Mountain in West Virginia not count? July of 1861. There is also the primarily naval victory at Hatteras Island in August of 1861. Then there was Port Royal in the fall of 1861. |
| Grelber | 11 Jan 2021 10:04 a.m. PST |
It kind of depends on what you consider to be a "battle." Mill Springs is often passed over and the credit given to Grant's Forts Henry and Donelson campaign, a month later.
Mill Springs was a larger battle than Rich Mountain, with more troops engaged, the two sides more evenly balanced, and there were more casualties.
Hatteras Island and Port royal were largely battles between Confederate forts and Union ships. Grelber
Kind of playing devil's advocate here |
| John the Greater | 11 Jan 2021 10:16 a.m. PST |
How about Carnifex Ferry? There were about 7,000 troops involved (both sides added together), which it a pretty good sized engagement for 1861. |
IronDuke596  | 11 Jan 2021 10:52 a.m. PST |
OMGoodness Bill you are violating your own edict. Albeit redundant; from "the official fold 3 HQ" ' |
| robert piepenbrink | 11 Jan 2021 11:03 a.m. PST |
Is there such a thing as an unsuccessful Civil War victory? I may have to report this thread to the Bureau of Surplus Redundancy Department. |
| jdpintex | 11 Jan 2021 12:15 p.m. PST |
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| TNE2300 | 11 Jan 2021 2:29 p.m. PST |
Bureau of Surplus Redundancy Department thats
The Department of Redundancy Department |
| John the OFM | 11 Jan 2021 8:27 p.m. PST |
I thought all victories were successful. I learn something new every day! |
| Bill N | 11 Jan 2021 10:15 p.m. PST |
Was Carnifax Ferry really a Union victory. The Confederates did withdraw from their position but only after checking Union attacks and inflicting more casualties than they suffered. |
| Dn Jackson | 11 Jan 2021 11:15 p.m. PST |
"Hello, Department of Redundancy Department. How may I help or assist you?" |
| Murvihill | 12 Jan 2021 5:57 a.m. PST |
There's a name for an unsuccessful victory, from the Carthaginian wars. Freudian isn't it,,, darn, second thing that goes is the mind. |
| John the Greater | 12 Jan 2021 9:21 a.m. PST |
Bill N – Generally if someone holds the field they are considered the winner. Some victories are a bit uglier than others. (see Guilford Courthouse) |
| donlowry | 31 Jan 2021 10:30 a.m. PST |
Most battles are a victory of sorts, for one side or the other. |
| Au pas de Charge | 31 Jan 2021 10:22 p.m. PST |
There's a name for an unsuccessful victory, from the Carthaginian wars. Freudian isn't it,,, darn, second thing that goes is the mind. You mean a Pyrrhic victory? Is that the Punic Wars or The Pyrrhic War (280–275 BC)? I thought after Cornwallis fired on his own troops (without specifically wanting to do so, of course) at Guilford Courthouse, it all resulted in an unsuccessful victory? |
