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FightingJones11 Jan 2021 4:55 a.m. PST

Hey All,

Does anyone know of a good source for the colours of the ships of the Eight Nation Alliance during the Boxer Rebellion?

I've done enough research to be able to make some educated assumptions as to how they were painted, but if anyone knew of a definitive source that would be great. I always hate it when I paint something up and then later find out I've done it wrong.

I'm working to the following list for my "International Squadron", based on Admiral Seymour's squadron prepared for the bombardment of the forts at Shan-Hai-Kwan (as reported in Lt. C. C. Dix's book The World's Navies in the Boxer Rebellion (China 1900)), which I assume to be correct, however if anyone has a better source I'd also be very happy to hear about that too:

HMS Centurion (Royal Navy)

HMS Barfleur (Royal Navy)

HMS Orlando (Royal Navy)

HMS Aurora (Royal Navy)

Navarin (Russian)

Sissoi Veliky (Russian)

SMS Hansa (German)

SMS Hertha (German)

D'Entrecasteaux (French)

Tokiwa (Japanese)

Kaiserin und Konign Maria Theresia (Austrian)

Vettor Pisani (Italian)

(and the following not included in Seymour's squadron, but included in my project as they were present on station during the conflict and would likely have been involved in any cruiser actions:)

HMS Terrible (Royal Navy)

HMS Endymion (Royal Navy)


Cheers for any help. Will follow up with painted ships at some point, all being well.

FightingJones.

HMS Exeter Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2021 6:52 a.m. PST

Be careful relying on general info. I know the British were using a China Station specific paint job as early as 1900, which might have been in use earlier, that varied considerably from their standard peacetime livery.

1x600011 Jan 2021 11:07 a.m. PST

SMS "Kaiserin und Königin Maria Theresia" wore greenish Montecuccolin as her deployment was rather spontaneous iirc.

Germans wore their standard white and yellow ocre.

I have pictures of RN "Carlo Alberto" with white hull and all yellow upperworks which should work fine for "Vettor Pisani".

1x600011 Jan 2021 11:19 a.m. PST

Try these russian links which might be of interest:

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FightingJones18 Jan 2021 6:25 a.m. PST

Thanks for the info so far. I've been delving into photo archives to see if I can't find some good references. I'll compile my notes and share it on here presently.

SMS "Kaiserin und Königin Maria Theresia" wore greenish Montecuccolin as her deployment was rather spontaneous iirc.

I don't suppose you have a reference for this, 1x6000? I'd very much like to have her in green.

1x600019 Jan 2021 5:18 a.m. PST

IIRC, I read about that in Erwin Sieche: "Kreuzer und Kreuzerprojekte der K.u.K. Kriegsmarine 1899 – 1918", but I'm not quite sure… I don't own that book anymore, so I unfortunately can't check it.

1x600019 Jan 2021 5:22 a.m. PST

Wait, I found twi pictures which I'd be happy to share:
- One shows KUKMT with russian "Gilyak" (white/buff) in the background
- The other shows KUKMT docked at Uraga in 1901. She's wearing Montecuccolin and the caption describes her as austrian flagship during the Boxer Uprising
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