"Operation Grapeshot and Operation Roast" Topic
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Tango01 | 09 Jan 2021 3:49 p.m. PST |
"After the inclusive assault on the German Gothic Line in northern Italy, the Allies spent most of the winter of 1944 to 1945 gathering strength for the subsequent offensive. On 6 Apr 1945, Operation Grapeshot was ordered to commence with 20 divisions, or about 850,000 combat troops, organized under US 5th Army and British 8th Army. Against them were 21 German divisions (some of which were under-strength) and 4 Italian divisions; Axis fighting troops totaled about 400,000. British 8th Army launched its attack first. On 1 Apr 1945, British 2nd Commando Brigade and Italian partisan fighters of 28th Garibaldi Brigade launched Operation Roast near Port Garibaldi across Lake Comacchio into the isthmus between Lake Comacchio and the Adriatic Sea; in the immediate term, the goal of this operation was to draw German attention away from the main offensive to be launched along the Senio River in a week's time, but in the longer term it was to provide a foothold for a subsequent attack on Argenta. On 9 Apr, after bombardment by 825 heavy bombers and many artillery pieces and smaller aircraft, New Zealand 2nd Division, Indian 8th Division, and Polish 3rd Carpathian Division attacked at dusk, with the New Zealand and Polish troops reaching Santerno River by the evening of the following day and crossing it on 11 Apr. By the late morning of 12 Apr, Indian troops also crossed the Santerno River. With Santerno River crossings secured, British 78th Division and British 24th Guards Brigade began advancing on Argenta…." More here link Amicalement Armand |
Editor in Chief Bill | 09 Jan 2021 4:09 p.m. PST |
Courtesy of the World War II Database website |
Legion 4 | 10 Jan 2021 8:39 a.m. PST |
As Churchill said, something like, "Italy was not the soft underbelly of Europe, but a tough old gut" … |
donlowry | 10 Jan 2021 9:19 a.m. PST |
The third word in should be "inconclusive" … doesn't give me much confidence in the quality of the rest. |
deephorse | 10 Jan 2021 9:51 a.m. PST |
As Churchill said, something like, "Italy was not the soft underbelly of Europe, but a tough old gut" … He never said that. You're conflating statements attributed to two separate people. |
Legion 4 | 11 Jan 2021 9:40 a.m. PST |
Oh did not know that! I had heard that was him for many years now. Enlighten me for historical accuracy purposes … Who said what ? I found this … link And this … imdb.com/title/tt1129884
link Found this on line too … a quote by General Mark Clark in which he said he imagined Churchill talking about Italy being the soft underbelly of Europe and what a tough old gut it turned out to be. So Churchill said something like, "Italy was the soft underbelly of the Axis" … With Gen. Clark said something like, he imagined "Churchill talking about Italy being the soft underbelly of Europe and what a tough old gut it turned out to be." … |
Tango01 | 11 Jan 2021 12:34 p.m. PST |
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Legion 4 | 11 Jan 2021 4:33 p.m. PST |
Do you concur deephorse ? |
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