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AussieAndy05 Jan 2021 8:24 p.m. PST

Hello
I would be grateful if someone could point me to where I could find a scenario map for Gravelotte St Privat. The map in Bruce Weigle's 1870 is too detailed for my purposes and the Bloody Big Battles map is too simplistic (and I'm not convinced of its accuracy in some respects). So, I'm looking for the Goldilocks option of something in between that's just right. I'm fine with the roads, railway, forests, farms and villages on the 1870 map, but I'm looking for something that simplifies the contours down so that I've got some hope of representing it on a table.
Thank you

AussieAndy05 Jan 2021 8:24 p.m. PST

Hello
I would be grateful if someone could point me to where I could find a scenario map for Gravelotte St Privat. The map in Bruce Weigle's 1870 is too detailed for my purposes and the Bloody Big Battles map is too simplistic (and I'm not convinced of its accuracy in some respects). So, I'm looking for the Goldilocks option of something in between that's just right. I'm fine with the roads, railway, forests, farms and villages on the 1870 map, but I'm looking for something that simplifies the contours down so that I've got some hope of representing it on a table.
Thank you

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian05 Jan 2021 9:11 p.m. PST

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AussieAndy05 Jan 2021 11:35 p.m. PST

Thank you Saber6.

I've seen that one. It is probably the best that I've come across for most terrain elements, but, as far as I can tell, it doesn't show the hills (the thin solid lines appear to be tracks and the dotted lines seem to show the outlines of the woods). The contours did have an impact on the battle, so I would like to show them, even if only in a simplified form. It may be that combining your map with the BBB map is the best that I will be able to do, but I'm still hoping for something that will make my life easier.

Thank you again.

UshCha06 Jan 2021 2:07 a.m. PST

You could just plot cross sections on your contour map like in school Georaphy and then simplify from there.

ChrisBBB2 Supporting Member of TMP06 Jan 2021 3:48 a.m. PST

Hi Andy,

Here are some other takes on the relief at Gravelotte:
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Hopefully these will help you decide which contours matter and where they are.

Chris

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AussieAndy06 Jan 2021 7:27 a.m. PST

Thank you UshCha. That is more or less what I am thinking that I will have to do, but the Weigle1870 map is just too detailed for my poor damaged brain to use it as a starting point for the contours.

Thanks Chris, those maps are useful, particularly the one that you linked.

Anton Ryzbak07 Jan 2021 6:11 p.m. PST

If I recall properly the old Osprey book on the battle has decent 3D pictures of the battlefield

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Tango0107 Jan 2021 9:45 p.m. PST

PRÉSENTATION DE LA BATAILLE DE GREVELOTTE ST PRIVAS…


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From here
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Amicalement
Armand

AussieAndy08 Jan 2021 11:45 p.m. PST

Thank you for your suggestions Anton and Tango.

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