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rivers316227 Nov 2020 12:16 p.m. PST

I've recently revived my Sudan project and am expanding my Egyptians but looking to include some of the smaller and more colourful units. I appreciate that there might not be info readily available but any advice would be welcome.

1. Would European officers generally wear the Egyptian uniform or would they wear what they felt comfortable in (in a similar way to British army officers)?

2. I've seen sources indicate the mounted gendarmerie wore light blue trousers and jackets – is this correct?

3. At El-Teb, Baker is listed as having some European mounted police with him (mostly Italians). Any ideas on their uniforms?

4. Also at El-Teb, I've seen some illustrations and other wargames represent the Alexandria and Cairo gendarmes (infantry) in Zouave style dress, with the fez. Would this be appropriate? I'm hoping so as it will add a bit of colour other than the sea of white I'm painting at present!

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP27 Nov 2020 3:43 p.m. PST

I believe the European officers wore Egyptian uniforms since most were given commissions in the Egyptian army IIRC.

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP27 Nov 2020 4:36 p.m. PST

I believe the 11th Sudanese wore a zouave style uniform with a light blue jacket and I added a unit of them to my forces as it's a lot of fun to use the early war Egyptian forces. There were all kinds of local units such as slavers, town militia, and the unknown number of Bashi-Bazouk units that were around used as tax collectors, enforcers, and as regular combat units. A great book is Fire & Sword in the Sudan by Slatin, which goes over some of the early actions during the first part of the rebellion.

Durban Gamer28 Nov 2020 3:38 a.m. PST

Aegis, thanks for the info about 11th Sudanese and Slatin's book. I've seen one old colour print showing a Baker gendarme in light blue Zouave uniform (with yellow trim) as well. Mike Snook's book Go Strong Into the Desert has lots of excellent, well researched uniform info and colour illustrations. It is a must. Shows eg Turkish battalions in dark blue jacket and white pants with Baker and probably Hicks also. I would use the Turks in 1882 games vs the Brits as well. Agree that early 1980s Egyptian army is colourful and lots of fun to game. Even the units in plain white with red fez can be given a variety of fez wraps with a little putty work.

Durban Gamer28 Nov 2020 3:49 a.m. PST

Sorry typo – early 1880s not 1980s in my message above. On internet, Flaherty has nice colour plates eg for Hicks Pasha's army.

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