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Triple00022 Nov 2020 8:32 p.m. PST

..when they drive like my grandmother.
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Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP22 Nov 2020 9:03 p.m. PST

That is pretty impressive. How do you turn a 70 ton tank upright?

Wolfhag22 Nov 2020 9:27 p.m. PST

Help, I've fallen and can't get up.

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2020 4:43 a.m. PST

Yikes! I would like to hear that tankers explanation!

David O Brien23 Nov 2020 4:56 a.m. PST

I would be interested to see how the driver gets out of an upturned tank?

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2020 5:13 a.m. PST

It's a Merkava, David O. The back opens up. It's getting out of the discussion with the First Sergeant which will be the tricky bit.

arthur181523 Nov 2020 6:09 a.m. PST

"..drive like my grandmother" seems a bit sexist.

My grandfather drove so appallingly around Sutton, Surrey, when he bought his first car c.1920 that my grandmother said she would never get in a car with him ever again.

Years after he died, we discovered he had served in the V Tank Battalion in the Great War, and would have learned to drive a Medium Mk II Whippet – a barely bullet proof steel box on caterpillar tracks with three machine guns, powered by a bus engine – then the story made sense.

Major Mike23 Nov 2020 6:35 a.m. PST

Starts out OK but once on fully on the ramp something is going wrong. Either the throttle gets stuck or the driver panics and instead of hitting the brakes his foot misses and ends up on the gas pedal. I don't know the spacing of the two pedals in the tank, but my guess is a malfunction of the throttle.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2020 7:03 a.m. PST

Not a great career builder – and given social media can't pretty it up either!

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2020 7:03 a.m. PST

It this turns your crank, buy a copy of The Pentagon Wars. The entire opening credit sequences is one tank fail after another.

I love that movie.

Stryderg23 Nov 2020 7:24 a.m. PST

Not that hard to do, on the one's I've seen the treads were wider than the trailer. You don't have to miss it by much to "make the news".

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2020 10:00 a.m. PST

That is true so you have to be very careful plus I didn't see a ground guide anywhere …

How do you say DOH in Israeli ? huh?

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2020 10:20 a.m. PST

You don't Legion4. You say it in Hebrew.

Choctaw23 Nov 2020 11:18 a.m. PST

My day isn't so bad after all.

Sundance23 Nov 2020 12:41 p.m. PST

Oops! My bad…

Stryderg23 Nov 2020 1:23 p.m. PST

How do you turn a 70 ton tank upright?

With one of these: link

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2020 4:20 p.m. PST

You don't Legion4. You say it in Hebrew.
Point taken ! So how do you say "DOH!" in Hebrew ?

How do you turn a 70 ton tank upright?
Yep with an M88. I've see them in "action". They are monsters. Can tow 3 60 MBTs in a daisy chain.

I've seen them pick up an M113 fairly easily. That had flippered on it's side. Each Mech Bn had 2 and each Tank Bn had 6 or 8 IIRC … old fart

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP23 Nov 2020 5:30 p.m. PST

Google Translate says "doh!" translates to דו but has no audio. Can anyone help us out here?

However, the Yiddish is דאָה or "doh!" Perhaps we can settle.

von Schwartz23 Nov 2020 6:26 p.m. PST

Don't know the Hebrew but in Yiddish it translates roughly to, "Oy vey".
Eat something, it will make you feel better!

45thdiv24 Nov 2020 4:56 a.m. PST

Was the driver injured? I don't see anyone interested in opening the back hatch to check.

Stryderg24 Nov 2020 6:48 a.m. PST

They were probably waiting for the treads to stop turning. Hopefully the driver was buckled in.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2020 11:54 a.m. PST

Thank you Stryderg. That beast was a revelation.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2020 4:35 p.m. PST

Thank you for your input Robert and von Schwartz ! thumbs up

They were probably waiting for the treads to stop turning. Hopefully the driver was buckled in.
Yes the tracks would have to stop and the tank stop moving/settle. And yes hopefully the driver was buckled in.

Sadly more than once M113s in the Mech Hvy Bde, I served in, had APCs flip over and the driver and/or TC lost their lives.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2020 4:48 p.m. PST

Sadly more than once M113s in the Mech Hvy Bde, I served in, had APCs flip over and the driver and/or TC lost their lives.

Ground guides, too. Walking backward with all that metal coming toward you turned out to be a bad idea, and not all of us were otherwise trained in time.

von Schwartz24 Nov 2020 5:51 p.m. PST

What is venting so violently off to the side?

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP25 Nov 2020 9:23 a.m. PST

Ground guides, too.
Very Important, we always had one of the crew dismount when entering a rear area like a assembly area, etc. And when loading on a rail car etc. you had to be careful as well. Easy to fall off or worse. fortunately never saw that happen.

What is venting so violently off to the side?
Probably some liquid in the vehicle hitting the hot engine, etc. Many of those fluids/liquids like oil, transmission, hydraulic, etc. can be very flammable …

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