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Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2020 10:14 a.m. PST

I've come across contradictory information about his livery colors. Some show them as blue & Tawny. Others here at TMP suggest it is red & white.

Hoping someone can clear this up. Thanks.

Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2020 11:02 a.m. PST

It is my understanding (confirmed by wiki) that he was also the Earl of Wiltshire (executed after Towton). As Wiltshire his livery was red.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2020 12:51 p.m. PST

Thank you Eumelus. So those would be all red livery coats?

Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2020 1:34 p.m. PST

That's my understanding, and that's what the banner-and-badge sets from Citadel Six portray:


Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2020 8:49 p.m. PST

Interesting. Thanks!

Here's one of the locations I had seen for White & Red. No idea of the source:

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